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CFN Parking issue

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Bekstar · 18/07/2018 23:50

I'm normally one of those who love a good parking thread. But just came back from holiday to a major issue with parking.

Basically I live in A rented property, my landlord is a housing association who owns most of the properties barring the one next door owned by my CF Neighbour.

She has had a long standing issue with our landlord as both her neighbours are landord properties it has also unwittingly meant we have been dragged into a few boundary issues in the past which we always direct back to landlord as really aren't our issue.

To cut a long story short we went on holiday for a week. Landlord asked if they could use our drive to park Work Vehicles as they were working on an empty house over the road, that they also own, that and one of those doing the work on behalf of landlord lives Next door on the otherside of us. His brother also lives in the one opposite us. Meaning the work vehicles are technically theirs but it would be pointless for them to drive back to the compound where they normally store them after the day's work considering they are working a door away from where they live. So we said they could use our driveway while we were away and within reason when we get back. They cannot use the driveway of property they are working on as there is scaffolding up and numerous large pieces of equipment as well as some of the driveway is been relaid. Anyway we arrived back to the scene shown in the picture attached.
Basically we only have one car but CFN has 3 and two family members who seem to have ditched thier cars, so all the light blue vehicles in the picture are theirs, the dark greeny blue ones are Work Vehicles and the dark blue one on NDN1 drive is neighbours own car, red is ours. As you can see landlord had put a Work vehicle on our driveway and then CFN has gone on to park one of theirs behind it (on our driveway) then block it in with another, as well as others dotted about. Meaning landlord cannot get thier vehicle out at moment and we have had to park on road in front of her house. We did authorise landlord to use drive but not these neighbours they don't get on with us and I can't understand why they feel the need to park there and what would possess them to, they can easily park on road outside house or even on grass in front of house, if they try hard enough driveway can fit three cars on plus an extra on grass. Landlord asked for use of our drive to avoid having so many vehicles parked on road as it does block access for bin crew etc if parked both sides. They would also have quite happily manouvered wherever we needed them too if we needed to be in however are now stuck. Landlords rep has asked her to move and she says "I can't I have had a drink" she has three sons all who drive as well as other drivers and won't even entertain moving it. Landlord has called police who have said they will attend tomorrow due to them preventing a work vehicle from leaving. They won't come out tonight as work is finished and not a priority.

I know how all you folk like a picture so have done my best with a pixel image. I haven't added other neighbours cars though but there are some mostly on driveways.
NDN1 is house with blue car and a work vehicle, he works for landlord but work vehicles normally go to a compound at night, he parked one on my drive one on his to avoid an uneccesary journey seen as he was working on house opposite.
The house opposite with all those funny yellow things is basically a building site that landlord is working on and nothing can be parked on it. The one next to that with the three Work Vehicles on drive and the one outside is my NDN1 brother who also works for landlord and has used his driveway for as many vehicles as he can.
The one next to my house with the light blue vehicle is offending neighbour, who has a drive big enough for three cars and a space on grass for 1. Without thier car on my drive or the one blocking it I would be easily have got parked.

WWYD as one workmen wants to build a fence in front of her car and landlords rep wants lads to bump it out way, however police have said to leave it until they arrive tomorrow. Hoping landlord has some clout with police cos this really takes the buscuit. Can't believe her cheek.

CFN Parking issue
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Whereismumhiding2 · 19/07/2018 11:51

Wow!!! That's a result! You've got your drive back, LL HA have their work vehicle back in use and police have hopefully resolved it for future too.

Big grin Grin that CFNDN has to pay to get her car back from police pound, as they definitely gave her sufficient warnings!
I suspect CFNDN has marked her card with police for good now, getting an ASBO over such an unneccesary behaviour.

kissthealderman · 19/07/2018 11:55

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RandomMess · 19/07/2018 12:02

ShockShockShockShockShockShockShockShock

Clearly not the most intelligent of people to ignore the Police!

BlooBagoo · 19/07/2018 12:02

Quite possibly my favourite update to any parking thread ever!

Bekstar · 19/07/2018 12:03

Sorry wowfudge I mean they have issued her with a Do Not Tespass notice and said they will pursue her if she does. Prosecute is probably the wrong word.
At moment police are looking at an asbo to prevent what they say is an ongoing campaign of harassment against HA and thier tenants. So fingers crossed they get it so she can face criminal charges if she does anything else.
I don't believe her though I know she had issues with the council last place and were evicted before coming here. Our HA tried to work with her by originally housing her family to give them a fresh start then agreeing to sell the house to her, she has now been here about 8 years, they dealt with a number of issues but have always been great about it and tried to avoid any confrontation. But she just looks like she needs to cause an argument.
Police were concerned that if I was to leave my drive unattended while out in car, she may deliberately try to block it as they can't pursue if she isn't blocking someone getting out. I need access due to the fact I have a wheelchair to get out of car, we struggled yesterday due to her and workmen had to help my hubby get me in house as she was over the dropped curb and blocking wheelchair access route. HA raised these concerns with police who advised them to make sure there was always a vehicle on the drive if possible so they can move her if she does it again. As we only have our one vehicle HA has agreed that while work is going on in empty house they will make sure there is always one vehicle on our drive and a space for us, once the work is over they will look at any other issues. Hoping the asbo goes through n sorts it out otherwise HA is looking at moving one of there less used vehicles onto my drive as storage. Not attractive but it's better than been prevented access to my own property I suppose.

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MrsPussinBoots · 19/07/2018 12:08

Wow!

Bekstar · 19/07/2018 12:10

SarahJConner Police have informed us as long as there is any vehicle on drive and they block it, it is a crime. A work vehicle needed for repairs is however more of a priority and will get a faster response from police. But any vehicle on drive is classed as preventing an exit. I don't work I'm severely disable but do need to get to hospital on a daily basis and need to get wheelchair in and out. Her car was also blocking my wheelchair route upto side entrance where access ramp is. (The work vehicle was parked fine, she however was parked wonky) My husband and the workman that lives over road had to help me in last night then lift a heavy electric wheelchair over fence and up front steps last night to get me in. Police have been fantastic, HA are great and the work lads amazing so hoping she gets the message. Only issue now is to never leave my drive empty so she can block it and insist it's a condition civil matter.

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LionsTeeth · 19/07/2018 12:12

Could you get a penguin bollard to put at the bottom of your drive so that when there's no cars you could pop it up to stop her parking there?

Excellent diagram btw!

BlooBagoo · 19/07/2018 12:23

This definitely sounds like a case for some penguin bollards!

Bekstar · 19/07/2018 12:40

She would probably just remove bollards or park across in front of them known her. Police say we should try n leave on vehicle on drive at all times cos if she parks across dropped curb when there's no cars they'll find it harder to move her. HA thankfully are more than happy to oblige and leave a vehicle until works ended.

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StormTreader · 19/07/2018 12:41

"At this point she was in hysterics saying she had been advised by solicitor it was a civil matter and police were breaking law"

Who does this often enough that they have checked with a solicitor whether this is a civil matter or not? She sounds like someone that takes deep pleasure in finding how she can make everyones lives miserable while staying just inside the line where the police can step in.

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 19/07/2018 12:55

I'm horrified at your update that her parking was not only wanky but was also preventing your wheelchair access into YOUR OWN HOME.
What sort of nasty git does a thing like that?

IamXXHearMeRoar · 19/07/2018 13:02

"preventing your wheelchair access into YOUR OWN HOME.
What sort of nasty git does a thing like that?"

Sadly all to common Breakfast, people are utter scuzzbuckets if they think you can't fight back. I had this but sadly the shared road was private and off the main highway so the police could do nothing, we moved.

OP I am so glad you got fast results, watch your back and get some cameras upe in case things escalate. Hopefully they will fuck off out of your hair now.

IamXXHearMeRoar · 19/07/2018 13:05

Also A+ for the diagram

Bekstar · 19/07/2018 13:31

IamXXHearMeRoar
We already have cameras they don't deter her, probably cos her solicitor keeps advising her it's legal what she is doing.
Oh and thanks for the compliment I like a good diagram

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IamXXHearMeRoar · 19/07/2018 13:38

Grin The cameras are for evidence in case you need it. Sorts a he said/she said situation double quick. As the police told me "sadly there is no law against being a total arsehole".

MsJolly · 19/07/2018 13:49

Your neighbours are fuckers

sunshinesupermum · 19/07/2018 14:34

CF obviously didn't tell her solicitor that they were work vehicles she was obstructing otherwise he would have told her to move her car sharpish.

whathappenedtomyusername · 19/07/2018 15:34

ShockShockShockShockShock

Troels · 19/07/2018 21:41

Maybe the council could put a disbled bay right next to your dropped curb, one more thing she isn't allowed to park in. At least then you could get close and into your home if she blocks the driveway.

Bekstar · 19/07/2018 22:45

Trowels our local council won't put them in, we have asked before they don't do them outside of homes round here, anyway wouldn't help us much cos they have a disabled badge so would still manopalise it. One of her sons has an unknown disability (by unknown I'm not saying he hasn't, but she does use a badge for him when parking in local area but nobody really knows what is wrong with him. Possibly mental health issues).

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OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 19/07/2018 23:25

Amazing diagrams. Glad your police are so responsive

imnotreally · 19/07/2018 23:31

Blatantly place marking. Makes a change to hear the police actually having the power to do something. Sorry you have to live next to such a nasty piece of work.

HooraySunshine · 19/07/2018 23:52

Shock Wow!! Where do you live that you received such a quick and amazing police response?? I'm shocked but also really pleased for you. Your landlord sounds amazing as well!

I can't believe your NDN thinks it's ok to park in your drive, and then another car across your drive? Clearly she knows it's not 'ok' as she's apparently contacted a solicitor and was told 'it's a civil matter' Hmm Is she wanting to go to court? I'm so impressed the police stood up to her and actually did something positive about your situation! Hopefully having to pay to get two cars out of police custody will learn her something! Wink

Star for the diagrams!!

Whereismumhiding2 · 20/07/2018 00:11

I posted earlier before I read that you are disabled and were a wheelchair user.

So just a little bit extra advice, as whilst police are right, they have limited powers when no car on your drive if you are blocked in. The situation you describe is not OK if she is deliberately targetting you as a disabled person and may fall under other legislation. Not an easy fix. But.

Firstly send a letter to NDN that you are disabled and a wheelchair user. And as you have previously explained to them, they are regularly blocking your wheelchair access to your property such that it is causing you distress and considerable difficulties, by parking without your permission on your personal drive and accross the dropped kerb deliberayely when they know that blocks your disabled access to your house. And that you've asked them to move to other available nearby spaces to enable your wheelchair access to your home but they keep refusing .

Keep a dated copy. Then everytime they park in a way that impedes your access,on your drive or a cross your dropped kerb, take photos from all angles of their car and how it impedes and of the street where there are free spaces or their drive where they could have parked.
About 5-7 incidents should do it, but the more the better.

If they regularly do it, then your NDN are heading into 'hate crime' arena of targetting a disabled person.
At that point raise a safeguarding concern (s.42 The Care Act 2014) to adult services that your NDN is intentionally targetting you and making your life miserable, that police have already spoken with them and warned them to stop, and that you feel too intimidated to be able to take action to reduce their abuse. (Don't say you can deal with it, as it won't meet final criteria) If they've also shouted at or verbally abused you, include that.

The key is, if they continue to target you, they are pursuing a course of action designed to intimidate and harrass a disabled person, which falls under discriminatory & emotional abuse / hate crime safeguarding.
In safeguarding, adult services liaise with housing, local BC and police with your NDN as alleged perpetrators of abuse. The police have to take hate crime seriously, it's a new driver (so contact MP if ASD & police dont pursue). Include if they at all have verbally abused you for needing a wheelchair.