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Buying a shit filled shit hole!

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GrumpyBagFace · 16/04/2018 20:10

We've just had an offer accepted on a house that's currently occupied by hoarders, dirty hoarders, with animals that have shit all over the house.

--We got a good price!

Anyway, what happens if they don't removed all of their faeces and tat when they leave? A man in a pub or a woman at work said they legally have to remove all of their belongings from the property. Is this true?

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nomorespaghetti · 16/04/2018 20:13

If they don't remove it then i think the best bet would be to have it removed yourself, then pass the bill on to them via their solicitors. Good luck with it all!

GrumpyBagFace · 16/04/2018 20:16

Ok. So we can bill them for it if they leave it?
That's great.

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user1484830599 · 16/04/2018 20:19

In theory they do, and it will be in the contract. What usually happens though is that they will leave stuff behind, and it ends up cheaper hiring a skip than following it up with the courts. Frustrating, but we've all been there.

keepingbees · 16/04/2018 20:25

I would make sure it's spelled out to them legally via your solicitor. That will probably only cover actually possessions though, not general filth. So you might want to request it is cleaned first as well.

GrumpyBagFace · 16/04/2018 20:26

I'm pretty convinced they're going to leave a ton of crap behind! They're stuff everywhere in the house and barely room to walk. I can't imagine they're going to box it up and move it.

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GrumpyBagFace · 16/04/2018 20:27

Can we request that they clean it?

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CakesTeaCakesTea · 16/04/2018 20:27

Insist on a retention then.........get a price on the cost of removing all the waste and have it put into the contract. Your solicitor can hold back that amount of money after the sale is completed. Beware: the sellers will have to agree to this. I’d have a quiet word with your solicitor and agent to see if they think it’s viable........you don’t want to piss the sellers off......

GrumpyBagFace · 16/04/2018 20:27

*there's

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CakesTeaCakesTea · 16/04/2018 20:28

Forgot to add - if they do leave the property clean then your solicitor can release the agreed amount to them.....

NanooCov · 16/04/2018 20:28

If it's so full of crap have you managed to have a survey done? It's only a good price if it's not going to fall down round your ears.

TheQueenOfWands · 16/04/2018 20:28

If there's shit there will be piss. Soaked into carpets and floorboards.

Are you sure you want it?

CuntPuffin · 16/04/2018 20:29

Mentally prepare yourself for it all to be left, while working with solicitors to try and prevent it being left. If you are mentally prepared, it will make it much easier to deal with if/when it happens.

To be honest, if I was buying that sort of place, I'd be arranging skips to be on site for immediately after completion as it will need gutting.

Good luck.

GrumpyBagFace · 16/04/2018 20:32

Yes. We got the fullest most detailed survey money could buy because I was convinced it was going to be rotten to the core.

I'll talk to the solicitor about a retainer.

I assume there's some level of mental health problem in a hoarder so I don't want to cause them anxiety but I also would quite like not to have to carry out 400 shit coated teddy bears to a skip.

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GrumpyBagFace · 16/04/2018 20:35

Oh there's definitely piss too... and there was a fair bit of porn in one bedroom so it's definitely a house of horror!

We have a cleaning plan and are getting new floors, replastering, etc.

It's a ridiculously cheap house for the area and size.. even with all of the work that needs doing it's a steal.

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GrumpyBagFace · 16/04/2018 20:36

Yeah, we've budgeted and are preparing for the absolute worst.

It's one poo away from needing a flame thrower.

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TheQueenOfWands · 16/04/2018 20:39

I remember my parents viewing a house and turning it down because it was full of stuff and they didn't think that the vendors would get it out on time.

Do you have a back up plan? Maybe a mate with a caravan?

If you try to complete over the Summer months then the cleaning, fumigating and flea treatment will be much easier. You can open all doors and windows and everything will dry quickly.

And don't forget before and after photos. You'll want them when you're done.

Got a link for us so we can nosy??

winterisstillcoming · 16/04/2018 20:43

I would try and get a quote for a professional clear out and take it off the asking price, or get the solicitor to hold back the same amount until after you have inspected the property and you are satisfied with the state it's been left in. But it's a bargain for a reason........

GrumpyBagFace · 16/04/2018 20:56

Luckily the sellers have a property to go to and we're currently renting. We are hoping to get it gutted, cleaned, and floors down in two weeks. Then we can hopefully move in.

We plan to live off the slow cooker and microwave for another couple of weeks while the kitchen is fitted (because the old kitchen will be going too).

There's a lot of external stuff that needs doing but can be done while we're in (repointing, rerendering, roof slates).

New boiler and radiators before winter.

Etc etc...

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GrumpyBagFace · 16/04/2018 20:59

I'm a bit scared to post a link in case someone sees something horrific!

We did get a full detailed survey and no major or urgent works were found. Lots and lots of maintenance issues but most of which we'd preempted.

I also don't want to get gazumpted! It's in a very nice part of England, in a very nice village, at a ridiculous price. They've accepted our offer much lower than their original asking price.

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SluttyButty · 16/04/2018 21:02

We had this only it was the garden. It was/is filled with shit, as in knives, forks, spoons, balls yada yada embedded into the grass. Pushchair, assorted buckets, bread bin on our boundary. Crap absolutely everywhere. In the house it was clothes behind radiators.
We've tried to chase for them to pay for the removal but got no where. We're going to eventually have to skip it all ourselves. I'd not mentally prepared for it when I should have.

itshappenedagain · 16/04/2018 21:03

Be prepared to find 5 unemptied wheeliebins full of the said shite that they will leave behind. Also check the loft and the top of bay windows if you have any. I speak from bitter experience.
Our house was rented previously, when they vacated the rubbish didn't. All of the carpets had been ripped up before we moved in and there were holes in the walls that weren't seen. Due to loads of crap being piled everywhere I was very glad about the carpets if the limo was anything to go by!
The best was the mountain of cigarette ends and wine bottles and glasses on top of my living room bay window and the dirty nappies in the loft.
Good luck with the house mine looked lovely about 2 days after I met bed in with a good clean and a coat of paint and all new flooring!

Etino · 16/04/2018 21:04

Don’t link because you’ve described the current owner. But please please post some unidentifying but shocking pics Wink

DownAtFraggleRock · 16/04/2018 21:04

My aunt bought a right hole of a flat in east London years and years ago before it was trendy, it was all she could afford.

She and her dad spent weeks clearing/cleaning. it was disgusting.

They made it lovely and she made a TIDY profit OP Grin

colditz · 16/04/2018 21:05

Be prepared to have to call in professionals, because there is no way in hell a hoarder is going to be able to move their precious hoard, and you probably don't have the PPE required to do it safely. Is it a big enough bargain to be worth replacing the plaster and floorboards? SOme smells and substances are pervasive.

user1484830599 · 16/04/2018 21:06

I would also make arrangements to have an alternative place to stay on the day you complete as if there is a lot of stuff, they might not have it out on time, or may use delaying tactics etc. The last thing you want is to be waiting to get in while they decide which teddies to pack in which box etc.

The best thing to do is to speak to your solicitor about your options.

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