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Totally overwhelmed with new kitchen decisions.... help appreciated

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AClearShotOfTheStreet · 06/02/2018 10:10

I think the problem is the space doesn't exist yet..... extension going up but I am having to choose my kitchen now! I am usually pretty good at visualising the finished room and making decisions to get there but totally at sea with this.

New extension space will be ,half dining and half kitchen.

This is the kitchen layout. We are hoping to imitate deVol to some degree so have gone for the Helmsley Kitchen from DIY kitchens.

www.diy-kitchens.com/kitchens/helmsley-alabaster/details/

The run along the wall we are planning to have painted in Mizzle by F and B
www.farrow-ball.com/mizzle/2013-new-colours/farrow-ball/fcp-product/100266

And a worktop of marble effect quartz www.geraldculliford.co.uk/profile/stone/denalicloud

We will have a single and combi ovens in the oven housing and a large induction hob and sink in that run.

Island will be white units with a walnut work top
www.worktop-express.co.uk/wood_worktops/walnut_worktops.html

Floor will be asphalt grey oil engineered wood
www.staki.lt/Products/gallery/provence-collection.html

The other side of the extension will be a dining area.

Was thinking about getting a copper sink but tap will be a Quooker which only comes in stainless steel or chrome so not sure.

Any feedback at all? Does it sound a bit hotchpotch? I feel like we've picked things we like but not sure about it going together. So confused.

Totally overwhelmed with new kitchen decisions.... help appreciated
Totally overwhelmed with new kitchen decisions.... help appreciated
Totally overwhelmed with new kitchen decisions.... help appreciated
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BougieQueen · 07/02/2018 12:43

Thanks so much @butterfly990 Smile

Palavapalava · 07/02/2018 12:45

Sounds lovely but wood is a pain in the butt to maintain!

Palavapalava · 07/02/2018 12:47

I agree re copper sink - it will date very quickly. Better to go with a white Belfast style or a traditional silver as they won’t ever date. If you do have wood then the Belfast style look beautiful. You could have copper accessories- and can change them when they go out of fashion very easily (unlike a sink!) x

PETRONELLAS · 07/02/2018 12:54

I love having an empty island. I think the sink shouldn’t go there - the clean line will get ruined by your tap.
I also dislike the mix of handles and knobs when there’s a long run.

Alpha10 · 07/02/2018 13:10

The kitchen and your colour choices are great, I agree that the area where the hob and sink are looks all wrong. Everything is symmetrical and then the sink is squished into a corner, it kind of looks like an afterthought. I think it will ruin your kitchen design,

I have my hob on our island and would not want my sink there. In hindsight I would not do an island again, it takes up too much space.

Alpha10 · 07/02/2018 13:18

Actually, if I were you, I would block up those two windows, you don't need them. You will have loads of light with the patio doors and the velux windows. You could then rearrange the location of the hob and the sink on that countertop to make it look nicer.

NotMeNoNo · 07/02/2018 13:40

Apologies if you have gone over this before.

Its one thing having an empty "kitchen table" island if you have plenty of worktop elsewhere. You only have one short run against the wall and really need workspace next to both your sink and hob. Otherwise you have the kitchen of a small poky flat in your gorgeous big extension! I'd suggest the hob goes on the island, if it's an induction hob it will be barely visible. A good wall mounted extractor between the windows will catch most of the fumes and be very cheap. (For example see Envirovent).

Then you can organise your kitchen into work zones as follows: Food storage - right hand end - integrated fridge and big pull out larder (see Blum Space Tower).

Crockery/cutlery storage in drawers, tea/ hot tap/coffee above.
Dishwasher and sink, bins.
Wall ovens (not too high, customise unit if necessary) at far right.

On island - hob is slightly to one end of it. In drawers below, all utensils, pots pans and trays and things the person cooking would want.

We have our hob on a peninsula with a 90x90 worktop next to it, it's such a pleasure to be able to spread out when cooking.

Also there was a recent thread (approx. 20 Jan) with chapter and verse on wooden worktops and how to seal them reliably

AClearShotOfTheStreet · 07/02/2018 22:55

Thanks everyone. Much debate here tonight about hob placements!

Bougie, your kitchen is gorgeous.

Cookie, our total space internally for the new extension is 5.2 x 5.4.

Definitely no copper sink.

What do people think about having the hob on a 90cm island?

Envirovent sounds good.....would this be able to get rid of grease though?

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namechangedtoday15 · 07/02/2018 23:40

There have been lots of threads about the pros and cons of a hob (or sink) on an island. If you search you can see that it all come down to personal taste and how you will use the space. For me personally I wouldn't want a hob on an island particularly 90cm with. I have young children which sit there pretty much constantly during food prep and cooking and is be wary of hot things spitting / steam etc. But if you don't have children or don't mind having guests sitting very close to your hob as you're cooking (30cm is only a rulers width) it'd probably work.

NotMeNoNo · 08/02/2018 08:59

One possiblity is to make the seating area of the island at the end away from the hob, have cupboards opposite it. Ours has seats on one end and shallow storage cupboards backing onto the hob for example.

Tika77 · 08/02/2018 14:58

I also think the sink looks really cramped in, if you're right handed you'll probably constantly bump into the tall cabinets.
I don't normally like hobs/sinks in the island but I agree with the previous comments that you should consider moving one.
And if you love copper sinks and can afford one, I'd say go for it. Everything we have today will 'date'.

AClearShotOfTheStreet · 09/02/2018 18:24

Right, i can't thank you all enough. Have got hob now on island but not in the middle, 60cm from the end. An extractor fan (Econovent? Or whatever was recommended above) in the ceiling above, which we have checked with.building control. That leaves some safe seating space on the other side at the othet end. Sink is where hob is and the two smaller windows are now one big window but set slightly further in so we have room either side for proper wall units which means one of them can hold an intergrated microwave so i can have two single ovens. Also decided to just go for mizzle units and the quartz all through the kitchen.

I am MUCH happier now and I thank.you all again.

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2choose · 09/02/2018 19:27

We got our kitchen from diy kitchens 2 years ago. Easy to order, a couple of doors arrive chipped, and they replaced them quickly. We laid out a whole load of cardboard boxes/ old cabinets to mimic the layout, and ran through day to day life e.g. Making a cup of tea, unloading dishwasher to see if we had got things right, and we found that was a really helpful thing to do.

Thenewwiderworldthird · 09/02/2018 23:15

Boogie - love your kitchen. Hope you don't mind but where are your bar stools from and what colour are they? Grey or blue? Thanks

BougieQueen · 09/02/2018 23:43

@Thenewwiderwordthird

I got all my kitchen seating from Atlantic Shopping - here is the link: www.atlanticshopping.co.uk/bar-stools/ascot-bar-stool-charcoal-fabric.html

BubblesBuddy · 09/02/2018 23:44

If the island is very wide, mine is 1.4m, then you can safely put the hob there. You cannot plan a kitchen around children that are not very young for long. The kitchen would normally last 20 years, not just through the toddling years! We have a seating area (round table built into the island) on the end of the island and no-one could reach the hob unless they crawl along the work surface.

The other huge advantage of having the hob in the island is that you will talk to the family whilst you are cooking and you will not be facing the wall all the time. I would put the sink where the hob is.

I think the extractor between the windows looks a bit odd and it is ultra cramped. The island just looks a bit like a waste of time. What is it's function? I have never seen a kitchen planned like this and it wouldn't suit me to have everything in one line, such as fridge, freezer, cookers, hob, dishwasher and sink. As well as my hob with an oven under it, I also have a veg prep sink which is near the my two fridges. I just do not think this layout is very imaginative and it does not make good use of space. Itgis also very linear with no curves or interesting features.

We have a large double belfast sink and its great. No drainer. Draining is done in one of the sinks if need be. You will be short of space around the boiling tap for any preparation of drinks. Sorry, but it does not work effectively in a triangle and that is still the best way to plan a kitchen.

BubblesBuddy · 09/02/2018 23:45

Just seen your later post. Makes a lot more sense.

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