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Home extensions 2017 - Christmas is coming

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Believeitornot · 06/12/2017 18:12

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whiskyowl · 03/01/2018 12:47

I would get another quote tika. I'm no expert and you sound like you're having a lot of complicated stuff done in a big place, so I have no idea whether that's a reasonable amount or not. It's always good to get a comparison.

I would seriously consider water underfloor heating rather than electric if possible -it's MUCH cheaper to run. And the kind of heat you get is lovely. I would go for tile with it, though, rather than vinyl because it's more conductive. I'm a hater of cold tiles too.

DustandRubble · 03/01/2018 12:51

I agree with whisky about another quote. We are having simple electrics so I really can’t compare. I was also going to suggest the water underfloor heating as every thing I have read suggests it is better & cheaper to run.

We are not doing underfloor heating, I am undecided on flooring for the bathroom currently. Tiles do get cold.

Believeitornot · 03/01/2018 13:34

@Wollstonecraft1 do you have building regs coming to check what’s the builder has done?

@Tatlerer your builder is an arse. Yes he could wind his company (would he really for one customer??) but you can leave awful feedback and make it difficult to get future custom.

@DustandRubble we got our radiators from soak and Best heating online. They’re vertical and do the job well so far

@whiskyowl is it too late to cancel the Ikea kitchen and just go for DIY? At this rate they’ll probably deliver faster than Ikea.

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Believeitornot · 03/01/2018 13:38

@Tika77 hard to tell. £2.4k for four bathrooms seems ok - £600 a room for example. Is that for labour and fittings? (Just to take a small bit of the quote).

I wouldn’t pay for their mistake though!

Things are slow here. Builder was in touch at 5pm on New Year’s Eve to say happy New Year and to check a leak was ok (he sent someone over to fix it). But expecting them to be back next week to finish everything next week. It’s been nice not having builders around, I have to say!

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Wollstonecraft1 · 03/01/2018 13:38

Believe, no we don’t. But we have been told by another builder that the pipe should be dug deeper and doesn’t comply with building regs. Should I ring the council to discuss? DH is so cross, he wants nothing more to do with the builder. I think this kind of stuff is kind of par for the course unfortunately

Believeitornot · 03/01/2018 13:40

We had building control come and inspect at key points e.g when the steels went in etc.

I would insist that the original builder corrects it for no cost. I would also have him speak to the tilers and other trades to explain why he thinks it’s fine. That usually sorts out any errors.

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DustandRubble · 03/01/2018 13:40

I would double check with building control, they might have a different view. Worth doing just to give you ammunition against the builder in any case.

Wollstonecraft1 · 03/01/2018 13:45

Ours hasn’t been an extension, just a reconfiguration so no building control involvement so far. Really good idea about getting him to speak to the tiler but that might be hard to get them onsite logistically.

whiskyowl · 03/01/2018 13:56

There must be someone who can advise you from an official safety standpoint, tika. Can you ring the council and speak to someone in building control informally? I would guess safety advice would be the same whether it's in a remodel or a new extension. It really doesn't sound deep enough if the tiler can see it, but what do I know? Smile

My utility room is starting to get fitted. It's the first bit that will feel anything close to finished. I think I might be going down with something. My patience today is zero and I feel exhausted.

whiskyowl · 03/01/2018 13:58

Sorry, that was for Wollstonecraft not tika. Love your name, btw, one of my heroes!

TeamRick · 03/01/2018 14:09

Sorry whisky but your demise in to the language, that only an incompetent contractor can inspire made me smile! ( I must be feeling better- my swearing habit is starting to fade!)

I am sorry you're all going through it at the moment, my wall not not even half tiled & it looks so much better! Amazing what a difference it makes!

Wollstonecraft1 · 03/01/2018 14:18

Thanks Whisky, mine too!

I’m not sure we have the energy for any fighting, just wanted it to run smoothly. Sad

DustandRubble · 03/01/2018 14:24

I hope you will be sharing tiling pics TeamRick?

We have lights going into the kitchen today, just the spots. And the floor ought to be going down, I am hoping to see some in place this evening. The floor is going to take forever. They have to lay the parquet, sand it, stain it & then lacquer it. But once that is done the actual kitchen units can go in.

Tika77 · 03/01/2018 14:56

Thanks everyone. I’m getting a bit unsure now of the heating. We’ll be having a wet ufh downstairs in the new areas, the electric in the bathrooms wouldn’t be sommuch for heating. Arrghh.... i thought we’d figured it all.

whiskyowl · 03/01/2018 15:19

dust - parquet, though. Reeeeeeeal parquet. Worth all that wait! Smile

wollstonecraft - you have this. You WILL sort it. It might seem bewildering and anxiety-provoking right now because you don't know what it ought to be like, so you're working in the dark. But as soon as you find out, you'll have a clear route forward. It's horrible to have to have confrontation with people, but you can handle it. You really can. Think about Mary striding around Sweden, all by herself, at a time when women just didn't do that. If she could take on all of the social and sexual mores of her day singlehandedly, we can deal with a few pesky builders and electricians! Smile

Isn't it funny how tiring it all is, though? I am doing the same job as usual. I'm not running around more. I'm not doing any more physical work. Yet I'm exhausted, and on top of that, I'm emotionally tired. I can't fully work out why. Yes, the process is stressful. Yes, it's physically difficult living in two tiny rooms. Yes, I'm not eating properly because of the lack of kitchen. Yes, it's hard dealing with builders day-in and day-out (even though mine are lovely people except the electrician). But all that doesn't add up to as much tired as I actually feel right now. I feel like my resilience is being worn down at some fundamental level, like I have less left in reserve to deal with any problem or issue that arises. And it's all making me feel strangely bad about myself, too, like I am some kind of failure.

Tell you what, I have so much respect now for those who are refugees of all kinds - whether women fleeing an abusive home, or those crossing the world to try to escape war. I'm finding this tough, and it's still a billion times easier than what many are enduring. As a female friend said to me at midnight yesterday when I was raging at Ikea, "Fuck them! But it's just a kitchen, sweetie, now have another drink". Grin

Baxdream · 03/01/2018 15:54

I'm sorry lots are having a tough time! This extension lark is bloody challenging at times!

Builders are back today. I've thoroughly enjoyed our dust free Christmas. Saw dust is everywhere already. But we will be done in three weeks which is rather exciting. We still have outside to do though but money is tight so we may wait. Who knows.

Today they have been making good our dining area ready for plaster.

DustandRubble · 03/01/2018 16:48

They have got loads of my parquet down! It needs to sit for 24-48 hours before they can sand. And we have lights!

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TeamRick · 03/01/2018 17:11

Dust that floor will be beautiful!

You've described it all very well Whisky & it's very true!

I'm back to work tomorrow after my long Christmas break and feel much better (and the swearing is subsiding) but I'm still struggling to sleep, my mind still races with the list of things that still need doing and I still feel quite anxious!
Maybe Spring will fix it!

Wollstonecraft1 · 03/01/2018 17:13

Thanks Whisky, just the pep talk I needed. Yes, it is so draining and exhausting. We didn’t travel anywhere over Christmas because we couldn’t face the mental drain it would take. We just need to summon some energy for the next few months.

whiskyowl · 03/01/2018 17:20

dust - that is absolutely stunning already. It's going to be sensational!

rick - it's comforting to know it gets better. Not sure I will ever stop swearing though!!

wollstonecraft - I really, really wish we hadn't travelled. Big mistake.
We drove 700 miles to see both families. We explained clearly to the in-laws that we were really roughing it at home and said that we wanted to stay in a hotel for a few nights. MIL insisted we stayed, promised to clear out the spare bedroom etc. etc. Then a night before we were due to arrive, she developed a knee injury that meant she couldn't, in fact, clear the room. So we had to sleep surrounded by boxes and dust and chaos instead of in a lovely hotel. The knee magically cleared up about 10 minutes after she had dramatically hobbled downstairs on our arrival, and didn't trouble her again. To add more misery, she cooked Christmas dinner, helped herself and FIL to piles of food, and then dropped the rest on the floor and shoved it in the bin, leaving very little for the rest of us to eat. I know it sounds unbelievable, but it actually happened.

There is NO WAY I am staying there for Christmas again. Ever.

Wollstonecraft1 · 03/01/2018 17:25

Oh that sounds awful! And one of the many reasons we didn’t travel. A hotel would have been perfect!

We didn’t want to sleep on a sofa bed at BIL’s who never puts the bloody heating on! We did miss a lovely evening for NY at our friend’s house though but we will make up for it next year. We both feel so wiped out.

DustandRubble · 03/01/2018 17:27

Oh god whisky, what a Christmas! I can just imagine how pissed off you must have been about the mess. My slight grumpiness about not having Christmas at home was easily overcome by being in clean, comfy surroundings with plenty of wine.

Thanks for the flooring compliments. I can’t wait to see the final product. It will be darker as we’re staining it to match the hallway parquet. Which is in the pic attached.

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Baxdream · 03/01/2018 17:54

Is anyone else finding their dog is petrified of the induction hob?!

DustandRubble · 03/01/2018 18:56

What is it about the hob that is scaring the poor dog?

Baxdream · 03/01/2018 19:14

It's the sound but I can barely hear anything but he hides and shakes!

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