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Vendor has put our house back on the market when we're nearly at exchange!

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bastardsthelot · 25/08/2017 09:14

Just that really, it's an inheritance house been empty a while as it's been through probate we had our offer accepted end of June chain chugging along (now a chain of 3) our buyers solicitor has been shit to say the least but it's all sorted now, our buyer and her buyer has been given a date to pencil in for completion (8th sept) our vendor said this isn't good enough and as of yesterday put it back on the market!!! What the fuck is this system? We're exactly 12 weeks from him accepting our offer yesterday, we've been on holiday for 2 weeks our buyers buyer has and so has my buyer, all at different times! he's a total money grabbing twat, right?

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MajorClanger123 · 25/08/2017 09:18

I always wonder what people who do this are hoping to achieve? You're due to complete in under 2 weeks and he thinks that he'll get a quicker result by putting it back on the market No other word for it but twat - sit tight, he's just being a dick

SleepFreeZone · 25/08/2017 09:18

Sounds like they're desperate for money.

PissedOffNeighbour · 25/08/2017 09:23

They probably need to pay the IHT - think you have 6 months to pay it from date of death...

SellFridges · 25/08/2017 09:26

But they won't get a buyer in two weeks who can proceed. So really it's irrelevant.

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bastardsthelot · 25/08/2017 09:38

It's been over a year since they died now, the house was in probate for 6months.
He just rang up the EA yesterday ranting and raving which in turn did the same to us, my DH found out it had actually gone back on the market by checking rightmove! They never rang us to tell us they had done it.
Everyone apart from our amazing EA has been so incompetent throughout!
I viewed the house again Monday gone to get measurements and he had t even cleared it out yet, so to me that doesn't sound to 'rush'

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wowfudge · 25/08/2017 10:03

Sounds ridiculous - if 8 September is being proposed as the completion date, when is exchange planned for? You need to get your solicitor to speak to the vendor's solicitor asap abd try to get to the bottom of this.

user1471530109 · 25/08/2017 10:10

The vendors of house I was buying pulled out just before exchange after nearly 5 months from offer accepted. The idiots buying my house slowed the whole thing down and I blame them completely.

I've now exchanged and complete next week. Having to go into rented to keep my sale.

Don't underestimate how annoying and frustrating a slow chain can be. You need to be pushing your buyers via your EA and solicitor constantly and personally I would have threatened myself to out it back in the market if they didn't sort it out.

I'm sure the vendor isn't pulling out, but trying to get you all to stop fucking about and exchange.

This house move has been the most stressful thing I have done and I've just finished going through divorce. The FtB have been infuriating

wowfudge · 25/08/2017 10:10

Btw IHT on property can be paid in instalments so the beneficiary doesn't have to pay the whole lot in one go. If the original owner died over a year ago then the IHT may not be the issue, but who knows.

user1499786242 · 25/08/2017 10:16

Ffs what a completely and utter twunt

Honestly that's ridiculous

We are in a chain and our buyer is being a twat, holding it all up
Vendor is getting edgy
So unless things happen soon then I suspect the same thing might happen
Going to ring the estate agent and solicitor today I think!

This is genuinely the most stressful and anxiety filled time of my life
Never ever again

Ever

Everrrrrrrr

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bastardsthelot · 25/08/2017 10:17

I'm in regular contacts with my buyer (text/ring everyday)
We've been ringing and emailing daily for the last few weeks we have done all we can to move it on her solicitor just doesn't answer the phone or emails.
Our vendor hasn't done a single thing, no chasing, no phone calls and neither has their EA and now he wants to call all the shots.
Our buyers buyer is already in temp rented acco until we can complete.
We spent all of yesterday firing emails and calls off to said solicitor just to get her to tell ours a date (our buyer went in and signed on Tuesday) but hasn't relayed any of this back to our solicitor 😩
Are you following because to me this is all a big fuck up but I'm no expert by any means.

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Doowappydoo · 25/08/2017 10:20

I think when you're at the top of a chain, there are no delays on your part and everything is so slow it can be incredibly frustrating. I would expect he has put it back on to apply pressure- he won't get another buyer by 8 September so sure it will be fine but maybe he thinks that this date could slip. We nearly got to this point with our chain.

If it's an inheritance house (parents?) it can be quite emotional and difficult to sell it. I would imagine that he just wants it over with?

user1471530109 · 25/08/2017 10:22

But you can't agree a date between the bottom half of the chain and expect the top to agree?

If I were you id be making a right nuisance of myself at his EA. He won't be getting paid if the sale falls through. You don't know that the vendor hasn't been chasing his sale. He could have been getting a different story from his solicitor about how the bottom o chain is holding things up (especially if one solicitor is as shit as you say).

The client of shit solicitor needs to be going mental to the receptionist of that solicitor. Threaten ombardsman. That will work.

I think you need to show the vendor at the top you are ready to exchange. Now.

Helloyouitsme · 25/08/2017 10:23

My vendor threatened to do exactly the same after only 6 weeks. To be fair agents and solicitors bent over backwards to placate him but I had to agree to exchange earlier than I was ready for then completion two weeks after.

It worked out in the end but I feel for you and also couldn't understand the mindset of someone who was prepared to start the whole process again when they were so close to completion.

wowfudge · 25/08/2017 10:24

Who is 'said solicitor' because I'm not following. Your solicitor needs to contact the vendor's solicitor pronto.

wowfudge · 25/08/2017 10:26

If you mean the vendor's solicitor then it's quite possible she couldn't get hold of the vendor and that's why she hasn't got back to your solicitor. Perhaps a message has been left which has irked the vendor and prompted him to put the house back on the market.

You don't know the vendor hasn't done anything - just because you haven't heard from him don't assume that to be the case.

Doowappydoo · 25/08/2017 10:29

Yes agree with above - there are also sorts of communication problems with chains ime, he could have been chasing but you haven't been made aware. We were blindly carrying on with our sale and purchase completely unaware of a deadline our buyers buyer had set for completion.

It's a horrible process, just hang on in there, keep up the pressure, get your estate agent to constantly chase your buyers solicitor - they're usually pretty good at that.

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bastardsthelot · 25/08/2017 10:30

His EA has told us he hasn't contacted anyone until yesterday which was him ranting and raving and putting it back on the market, his EA has now told him to speak to the manager only as the way he spoke to the young girl in there reduced her to tears 🙄
He's inherited this house from a distant auntie, one reason it had to go through probate as she didn't have anyone to leave things to so didn't make a will.
Our solicitor has been in contact with his but she can't tell him much as dates haven't been relayed to her I only know the dates as I'm in personal contact with my buyer.
Buyers solicitor only sent enquiries last Thursday after having the draft contracts from mid June and expected our solicitor to answer all these in 2 days, which thankfully we managed to do.

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user1471530109 · 25/08/2017 10:36

I don't understand why you wouldn't have passed on the dates to your solicitor? Unless I'm not understanding something.

Just so you know what a pain in the arse i was with the whole chain, I emailed several times of day to get updates to questions raised and called EA several times a week.
From my point if view my buyers are fucking useless, but of course, they may have been doing the same.
A chair is only as strong as its weakest link. If the buyers solicitor is crap, your buyer needs to do something about it. She is paying, I assume, a lot of money to this person.

I do know how you feel. Like I said, most stressful thing I have ever done, and I've moved (sold and bought) lots of times before.

user1471530109 · 25/08/2017 10:37

Typos everywhere, but you get the gist

It sounds like communication is the problem. If you're discussing things directly with your buyer, everyone else needs to be aware.

Gingernaut · 25/08/2017 10:38

A first time buyer, I put an offer in on a house at the end of May and we finally completed at the beginning of September.

This was after the vendor claimed he wanted a quick sale, went on holiday twice, tried to do the conveyancing himself before hiring an incompetent solicitor using out of date forms and then, took time out to change his fucking name by deed poll requiring a full name change on all legal documents including the fucking title deeds.

There was no chain and through no fault of mine, it took four months.

13 years ago. I'm not bitter. Oh no...😠

wowfudge · 25/08/2017 11:04

I don't have a great deal of sympathy if the process still only took 4 months Gingernaut!

I really wouldn't advise speaking directly to buyer or seller about the nitty gritty of things - the role of an EA as an intermediary is important and I think people forget how useful it can be to have them convey messages and information for you. If you decide things between you, you must then relay this to your solicitor and the EA or it can rapidly go wrong.

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bastardsthelot · 25/08/2017 11:09

We haven't decided anything between us it's just a case of being kept informed as we wasn't hearing anything from her solicitor, once we've all signed we will cease personal contact but it has been a great help being able to speak to her as she's been told things by her solicitor that are simply not true so clearing that up has been easier.

Name change in the middle of a sale? What? I have no idea what goes through some people's heads

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user1471530109 · 25/08/2017 11:40

Have you heard anything from the EA yet? I'd be insisting my solicitor called down the chain for exchange asap. You say all enquiries have been done? Is that in all transactions? Remember, even if your buyer is sorted and signed, it doesn't mean the vendor above you has, or even your buyers buyer.

Are you not local? I'd be going into his EA and making my self heard.

Viviennemary · 25/08/2017 11:44

I'd say that for some reason they don't want to sell. Or don't want to sell for a while. But I think everyone has to agree on a date and not be just told this is what we've decided. Perhaps that's why he's annoyed.

wowfudge · 25/08/2017 12:15

Speculation isn't helpful - get your solicitor, not the EA, on the case.

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