moving a bedroom wall?

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We might have the chance to buy a family property but it has 2 large double bedrooms and a properly tiny small one. The small one is roughly the size of a single bed in either direction.

I was wondering if it would be crazy to move a wall somewhere to make the small one bigger.

Alternatively the 2 girls could share a room and use the third as an office but it seems a shame to have them.share when they don't currently.

Is it a mad idea? Very expensive?

Or we could convert the attic potentially to make another bedroom but how expensive would that be?!

Is it a 1930s semi? That's the kind of layout for those houses. The problem is usually that the bedroom next to the small one has a very big window so if you're limited to have much space you can pinch from the bigger room before you have to start thinking about altering the windows. Doesn't usually make sense. You'd have to look in the loft to see what's above the wall before you know how much its likely to cost.

As for a loft conversion, you need to know how much head height you have before you know whether its worthwhile. Off the top of my head you need at least 210cm between floor and highest point.

Depends what the wall is made of and whether it is structural. I did it recently when renovating a flat with a huge bedroom and tiny one. The

Sorry. On phone...

The wall was made of breeze block and non structural, so an hour or so to knock down and a day to rebuild and another to plaster.

Yep unless it's structural very very cheap and far cheaper than a loft conversion even if you put in a new smaller window in the double next door!

I think it's 1930s semi. Top of stairs to separate loo and bathroom, then 2 large rooms then tiny room.

There's a possibility we could rent ours out and rent their house.... Which keeps both properties for the future. Better life for us but at some cost. Also not as free to do things to the house....

I think the loft conversion would be beyond our means. I've just Googled roughly and getting 30-50 thousand. If we had the money it would be ace, small room could be a home office, but we don't have access to that kind of money.

So walls. A few thousand? More? I'm trying to picture the window, I think it could well have a long window in the double room.

Loft conversion is possible as other houses in the road have done it but they're quite high spec.

Problems would be the separate bathroom to toilet, and downstairs loo is tiny - no sink and I'm not sure if there is room.

It's in a location we like, better school. May not be the first choice house but it may be a chance at a much nicer house/area/schoool we couldn't otherwise afford.

Oh Googled. It's 1930s detached I think.

Ours is boxy small ex ha 1980s end terrace estate...

You can remove the original window and put in a narrower one as well as moving the wall. Really shouldn't be hugely expensive tbh.

What's not hugely expensive? Under 10 grand, 5 grand? Obviously we'd get quotes but I really haven't a clue.

They're both the windows at the front of the property. It's possible the large bedroom windows match the Living room ones underneath.

Less than £5k (providing it's not a supporting wall).

You would put in a smaller window centrally so although it would match the lounge window underneath it should look ok?

Are there any similar properties on right move so we can have a look?

www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-54596137.html

I can't find one the same. This kind of front though. Ish. With a loo to the left of the front door.

Definitely should cost under 5. It'll be a case a knocking it down, rebuilding + replastering (2-3 days worth of work). You'll need to sort out the flooring, e.g. A new carpet for the smaller bedroom - a few hundred pounds. And then repaint/ wallpaper. Complications could the wall being structural (although nothing for it to support, is there?) or plumbing and electrics in the wall in question - if you needed to get a plumber or electrician out. However, I'd still expect to come in under 5k...

Thankyou.

If yours has a loo to the left of the front door it should be pretty straight forward to move the bathroom and toilet into the box room, and create a larger third bedroom at the back. Again less than 5 k. Would this give you a bigger 3rd bedroom?

Sounds like a good idea but I'd expect to fork out 10k+ for a whole new bathroom and bedroom.

I don't agree jojosm2. We converted a bedroom to an ensure a couple of years ago and all in was about 2.5 k. We bought an end of line bathroom suite and cheap white metro tiles (and tiled ourselves) though. Also you would be improving rather than devaluing the house by keeping the 2 good sized doubles and making the third bedroom bigger. Just my thoughts though, obviously if you are going to be in the house long term you should have whatever layout suits you and your budget best :)

Can you extend over the garage?

We were quoted £1500 - made a big difference - the extra length of the second bedroom became storage for the third - almost a built in wardrobe - so even more space

Second heffalump's idea and think that would be the cheapest option. Is something we ought to do here, but back of house north facing so box room a much nicer room (though smaller).

Bedroom to bathroom conversion idea def worth considering!!!

How big is the front double?

If it is a single bed size both ways, you could put a high sleeper in there. One of my three boys always had the smallest room and quite liked the cosines of it. Less space to get messy as well!

Unless you are able to do the work yourself, there is no way you can get a new bathroom, and make good the old bathrrom into a bedrooom for 2.5k.

It is muc hcheaper to add in an en suite heffalump than it is to rip out a suite, rip the tiles off the walls, plaster walls and cealing, have electrics put in and a radiator, new flooring. AND then do a whole new bathroom in the old box room.

Much cheaper to just move a non load bearing wall.

Kiroro I said I would expect up to to 5k not 2.5 (that was the cost of doing ensure only). But if you move a wall you still have to plaster, replace floor, replace window so I really don't think it would be much cheaper and the second bedroom and front of house would both be adversely affected.

I'm not convinced the moving the wall solution or bathroom solution are worth it. I think shrinking the upstairs window even if new one is centred will make it look a bit odd and potentially stand out amongst the others in the road, though some clever training of plants up the house would distract from it but you'd have to maintain them annually once they get to a certain height.

How much bigger is the bathroom than the box room? Unless it is significantly bigger it is a lot of hassle for a few square feet. I've found parents are often a lot more bothered about room size than children. DS used to look at me as if I was slightly deranged when I kept on about it but he is pretty much 6 foot and was really cramped. Having said that now he does have more room he is appreciating it but I have known a fair few tall teenage boys who were perfectly happy in the box room for years.

I think you're better off looking at furniture solutions for the room like High sleepers, Study Beds, Elfa storage for wall desks, back of door, carpenter to custom build something.