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Buildteam - Clapham based company "Side return specialists"

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Daisy123abc · 23/12/2015 00:29

Hello world. Has anyone else used this company?
I am seeking others who may have had issues similar to the ones we have experienced in order to convince me that it wasn't all just our bad luck.
We are in recovery (and may need therapy) from using Buildteam's services. A truly ghastly experience which has included: delays, empty promises, appalling customer service, hidden costs, serious disinterest in quality, non English speaking workforce, major building errors, staff changes, some dishonesty, absent project management etc.
The list goes on and on.
Given our experience, their shiny website now reads like an imaginative comedy script detailing all the things we didn't get. I have a huge file (think dossier) of documented evidence, including video, which provides examples of how we didn't. Blog, book, TV series and movie to follow. Maybe.
Who are all these happy customers? Why aren't I one of them?
If you are thinking of a side return I am happy to share details so you can make your own mind up but if you want my advice, don't go there.

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DanDavidson · 25/02/2016 17:19

A response from the Founder & CEO of Build Team

My name is Dan Davidson and I am Founder and Chief Executive of Build Team.

I was recently made aware of this thread, and having read the various posts, wanted to put forward a response to the issues raised so that readers have the opportunity to read a balanced account and draw their own conclusions.

The thread is made up of contributions from both clients of Build Team and non-clients. My response, in the main, will address the issues raised by the known clients.

Daisy123abc – We met at the initial site visit and both myself and co-Director, Mark Eden, have subsequently conversed extensively with your husband. Build Team obtained planning consent for your project in 15/10/2014 and build commenced in 28/7/2015. At the outset, the project was managed by Ken and then Simona, following Ken’s departure from Build Team. Towards the latter stages of the build when you voiced dissatisfaction with our service, we fielded Clara (Senior Project Manager) and Mark Eden to oversee the remainder of the project. We have worked hard to rectify all of the issues raised and remain committed to completing the remaining list of snagging items. The relationship has been strained at times, but our understanding is that it is currently amicable – and it was in the spirit of concluding the project amicably, that we asked you to take down the negative reviews that you decided to post on this and other forums. You did agree to this request, however we understand that you may have changed your mind. We must stress that that we do not believe we have been dishonest in our dealings with you, and we remain committed to completing the project. Finally, you raise the matter of the Trust Mark logo. We have investigated this and confirm the logo did feature on an advertisement board outside of your property. This was an old batch of advertisement boards that were printed when we were told that FMB members could legitimately use the TrustMark logo. We have subsequently ordered reprints of these boards and have written to TrustMark to offer them our attestation that the logo does not feature on any of our current marketing material.

dulwichquine, alaska721, rioblue – My understanding is that you are not clients (past or present) of Build Team, however you all mention the removal of posts from another forum and I wanted to take the opportunity to explain more about this. These contributors are right to point out that we did, with our client’s express permission, post a review on their behalf. This was flagged by the administrator, and in doing so, sensitive IP information was published on a public forum which could have compromised the IT security of Build Team and the many forms of data we hold, including customer data. For this reason, we did seek legal advice and in agreement with the host, the posts were deleted. I must stress that the host did contact the client directly whom had been struggling to make their post, and were satisfied that the matter was entirely above board. We did, however, learn from this experience and will not in future be posting comments on forums on behalf of third parties.

Zoeblask – We met at the initial site meeting. You subsequently appointed a different design company to undertake the architectural drawings and planning permission and then came back to us for the build phase. Parts of the project did not run smoothly, and this was exacerbated by personnel changes at Build Team. We have accepted responsibility for some of the issues you have reported, however there are others that we disagree upon. We are therefore in dispute, and we are aware that you have instructed lawyers to assist with your dispute. Build Team are not a litigious company, however where we feel we are in the right, we will defend our position. I hope you deem this to be a reasonable stance of any counterparty in dispute, and we would ask that you refrain from prejudicing the dispute by publishing information relating to the dispute on public forums.

MotherK01 – I met you at the initial site meeting. You instructed Build Team in 22/09/2014 and we subsequently obtained planning consent for your scheme on 4/02/2015. You put the scheme out to tender, and appointed another contractor to undertake the build. The failure to display the requisite planning notice outside of your property in Lewisham was an oversight on our part; we simply did not receive the notice – and were not aware, at the time, that it was the applicant’s responsibility to display the planning notice on behalf of the Council. We apologised for this oversight and updated our procedures with regards to subsequent Lewisham applications. I refute the accusation that either myself or members of my team lied to you at any point during our engagement. Despite the passage of time, you appear very determined to post negative reviews about Build Team, and we express our surprise at the veracity of your tone given the scope of services was delivered in full and within a reasonable timeframe. We deem your actions in this regard to be disproportionate and as you state, forum hosts have removed several of your previous posts about Build Team.

Zorro44 & pippasdonkey – You indicate that you clients of Build Team, however from your posts I have not been able to identify who you are. You are very obviously dissatisfied with our service and I would ask that you contact me directly so that I can investigate your complaint further. My email address is firstname dot surname at buildteam.com; alternatively please call the office.

I hope the above explanations go some way to reassure readers of this forum that Build Team are a hardworking, honest and committed company who do the best we can for the clients who appoint us day to day. We operate an “open door” policy and I would invite any client with a grievance to contact us and we will do our upmost to resolve the complaint. Building projects can be stressful, but we firmly believe that disputes can be resolved through communication, a fair & reasonable approach and a commitment to finding a resolution. For any prospective clients who are reading this, we would extend the same open door invitation to meet at our offices in Clapham, and also invite you to attend one of our House Tours, and ask us for a list of client references. The details of our forthcoming House Tours are contained on our website.

Dan Davidson
25th February 2016

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OakTeak · 02/03/2016 16:00

Another unsatisfied Build Team client here.
A repeat pattern of many of the reviews that have already been posted - ineffectual project managemet, serious problems with the build that were denied by Build Team Directors until Building Control became involved, an online review removed from the website that it was posted on.
There are many great building companies out there but Build Team are not one of them

BumbleNova · 02/03/2016 16:31

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kirinm · 02/03/2016 21:53

It really is odd that people's posts are being removed. It's not going to work though. Bravo to Mumsnet for not deleting the thread.

Zoeblask · 04/03/2016 13:10

It is laughable that build team are "not a litigious company" when I know their tactic is to threaten legal action to anyone who posts a negative review. I have spoken to many people who have experienced this from them.

I will never be bullied by them to stop sharing my experience on forums and other review sites, as I want to do my best to ensure no one else has to go through what we did. I have made it my mission!

If you've had a bad experience, please post it and don't be scared by their bullying tactics - nothing is defamatory if it is a true statement of fact.

Zorro44 · 22/03/2016 14:05

I have just received an email from Mumsnet indicating that they have received a complaint from Dan Davidson at Build Team. Mr Davidson considers my earlier post to be libelous and, it appears, is contemplating legal proceedings against me. My choices appear to be to remove the post or run the risk of legal action. Given that I stand by the comments I made in relation to my own, direct, experience of this company and can evidence it, I have asked that my post remain on the thread. I leave it to others to form their own view of a company which expends this level of effort to suppress negative reviews, whether or Mumsnet or elsewhere.

Zoeblask · 22/03/2016 15:36

I'm not surprised and good on you for not being scared of their tactics - they have already had one thread on the Dulwich forum removed threatening legal action. I really wish that Build Team put as much time and effort into managing their image as they did their projects. It's such a shame we all have had to go through this and they still don't seem to have any understanding or compassion for the severe stress they caused and continue to cause. I do hope this thread keeps alive, to warn other potential customers.

dulwichquine · 22/03/2016 18:14

This man has also contacted Mumsnet to ask for my my post removed because he said my comments were libellous. All negative reviews about this company has now been removed from the East Dulwich Forum. Debate closed. I wonder how long Mumsnet will hold out.

dulwichquine · 22/03/2016 18:15

Sorry typo - all negative reviews have now been removed.

BumbleNova · 22/03/2016 18:38

me too Dulwich! I'm a lawyer and I cannot see how my post would be deemed libellous! it gave me a good giggle.

OakTeak · 22/03/2016 19:06

I also received an e-mail from Mumsnet today regarding my review of our experience with Build Team.

Peyia · 22/03/2016 20:16

Well that back fired Hmm

I was almost swayed into thinking it was all a big misunderstanding until posters confirmed MN have contacted them to advise they may be pursued for being libellous Shock

dulwichquine · 22/03/2016 21:29

Agree with you on that Bumblenova. V intimididating tactics.

DustOffYourHighestHopes · 23/03/2016 13:50

I've also received a notice of defamation. For my two posts. Silly, flippant posts, of no substance whatsoever. Poor mumsnet, sorry to put you through this trouble. EFF YOU Build Team for being, in my opinion, so aggressive and ridiculous. I sincerely hope no one touches you with a barge pole.

Defences to defamation: "Allowable defences are justification (i.e. the truth of the statement), fair comment (i.e., whether the statement was a view that a reasonable person could have held)...". Everything I am writing in this post I am making sure is subjective, about my opinion, and therefore 100% true.

So here are my two posts again, amended (I've added the words in bold so as to be unambiguous):

"if people have genuine complaints, which I don't know whether they have or not, one way to make sure they don't get erased is if the following advice was followed: Someone (with time on their hands) should do a new post every fortnight: 'BUILD TEAM ARE RUBBISH NEVER EVER EVER USE THEM'."

"P.S. The only thing for Build Team to do is to rectify their mistakes (if indeed they have made any) then post on here apologising profusely and explaining why this will never ever happen again.

DustOffYourHighestHopes · 23/03/2016 13:52

Try this, defamation lawyers - is any of the following comment untrue or unjustified?

I have read from various anonymous sources, which may or may not be reliable, that people have had huge problems with the work carried out by Build Team. I don't know if this is true or not as the sources keep getting removed by Build Team.

sparechange · 23/03/2016 14:08

Woah, very very glad this just popped up in active.
My neighbours are getting them over the quote next week. Will be pointing them in the direction of this thread
She is also a lawyer so I'm sure will delight in de-selecting a firm which has such contempt for the concept of libel.
They've really shot themselves in the foot here, haven't they...

Peaceandloveeveryone · 23/03/2016 14:15

Wow, this company has handled things badly, I wouldn't touch them on the back of their response alone.

Daisy123abc · 27/03/2016 11:43

Dear all,
I have also been threatened with same libellous accusation as others. As I had heard about this happening on other websites it came as no surprise but it is still dreadful nonetheless and a ghastly additional chapter to our personal story which struggles on still - a saga regretfully now well known within our community, and not least because of a pile of builders rubble which has been forlornly advertising itself outside our house since the end of January. I do not feel that Mr Davidson has communicated any real understanding of our perspective. I do feel as if all our anxieties of the past 9 months have now been officially marginalised and this recent heavy handed accusation only exacerbates the profoundly detrimental effect this has taken upon the quality of our everyday lives where managing a level of stress and preoccupation, which in my opinion has gone beyond that which would normally be expected, has taken its toll. I reached out to the Mumsnet community, clearly impassioned by circumstances, wanting just to meet other customers ready to share their story in order to compare it to ours. There was enormous comfort in subsequently learning that we were not alone and this has helped us to establish a perspective which was not created in isolation. I had sincerely hoped to write a happier ending to this, but we are now in dispute. We know our story is valid and can evidence it. Thank you Mumsnet community for your ongoing support.

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sparechange · 27/03/2016 15:31

Buildteam, WHAT are you playing at?
I have never ever come across a company so insecure as to threaten legal action against anyone who gives an accurate account their experience with you.

If nothing else, you do realise that you are pushing this thread further up the Google results page by forcing people to come here and report your threats?
At the very least, that is a spectacular own goal with your online profile.
Not that you should stop, if it means more potential customers get to see the bullets they are potentially dodging...

kirinm · 28/03/2016 12:00

Is the reason there are so many deleted posts on here because people are being threatened with legal action?! Shock