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House on at £125,000 what would you offer?

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ohhifruit · 13/01/2014 10:25

I've been lurking here for a really long time, sorry for jumping in with a question.

We are FTBers and viewed a house local to us which is on at £125,000.

The house has:
*3 beds (two are small but this can be transformed by switching a bathroom and bedroom around when we'd come to a point of redoing the bathroom)
*Upstairs bathroom (many in the area have downstairs bathrooms)
*3 reception rooms (it is usual in the area to have 1 reception room and for the back room to have been converted into a kitchen/diner)
*Extension which contains kitchen, w.c. and utility room.

  • Converted garage in the garden.
  • Nice area within reach of train station, 2 good primary schools and within a walkable distance to DH's workplace. *Usable cellar space *Potentially usable loft space *High ceilings *Light, bright rooms

It is an end terrace which had substantial extension/addition before the area became a conservation area (and development in the area became difficult to obtain permission for) and as such is the only 3 bed, in the specific area we want to buy, under £150,000.

All other houses on the street are two beds and ones which have sold in the past 10 years have been refurbished to a high standard. These types of houses have sold recently for around £105,000 - £115,000

Reading all that you think "£125,000 is great, offer the asking price" however:

*The home is owned by an artist who has done some rather strange DIY which whilst not damaging to the bones of the house would be a pain to change and correct. There are random lumps of wood drilled into the wall, painted murals, pine ceilings, slithers of thin tiles on the floor inbetween the carpets of rooms and around light sockets.

*Most rooms have those odd polystyrene ceiling tiles which I assume are dangerous?

  • At the end of the extension the utility room opens out on to the garden and when I went out of the door I ran my hand down the wall and noticed it was soaking. The wall didn't feel sodden or permanently wet, it did however feel like the rain was leaking in from above and once outside we noticed the very old roof on the extension portion of the house is in need of either a great deal of work or complete replacement and obviously the rear wall would need to be fixed.

*The garden has warped decking which would need to be ripped out quickly as it was very slippery.

*The garage space which has been converted into an office has a very strong smell of damp, so this will need looking into - I suspect this might have something to do with the shockingly bad and soaking wet decking.

*We would need to replace kitchen and bathroom within 12-18 months.

*It has been on the market since last May and the sellers have not started looking for a house.

*We can move FAST, have a mortgage in principle and a good deposit, does that put us in a good position?

My heart says "BUY IT, GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT", it's the only house for miles within our comfortable price bracket which has more than 2 bedrooms. Finding something like this is near on impossible but does this mean we should overlook the amount of work we need to do it?

My FIL suggests going in first of all at £112,500 which is 10% off the asking price with a view to spending no more than £120,000. But because it is so different and properties like this don't crop up often do you think we should be wary of taking 10% off the asking or is it true a first offer should be insulting?

I love it and DH thinks it has "good bones and amazing potential", I could see us living there for 10-15 years.

HALP!

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bishboschone · 21/01/2014 18:42

Ooh .. Could you extend into the land ? I wonder how much it is?

ohhifruit · 21/01/2014 18:49

The only piece of land I can see it being is to the side of an current outbuilding and it would be useful to have, however I can't imagine us getting planning permission to extend because it is a CA.

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WhoNickedMyName · 21/01/2014 18:52

I'd be suspicious of someone that has had their house on the market for 8-9 months and is now playing hardball for the sake of 5k. I'd be wondering how serious he was about moving.

The attic space probably doesn't meet building regs so can't be marketed as a room. The survey, if you go for a full one will probably throw up various other jobs that need doing that your builder friend hasn't been able to look properly for.

I'd stand firm with your previous offer. Hold your nerve. Nobody has bought it in 9 months so there's not going to be a rush on it now.

MyNameIsKenAdams · 21/01/2014 18:55

Maybe you could offer 110,000 and state that it is due to building works you are assunibg need doing - and that you will arrange a full survey to check if the amount you have deducted is appropriate.

ohhifruit · 21/01/2014 19:03

That's what I think whonickedmyname, I won't be playing games over £5k.

Our builder thinks we'd need a new stair case, window, fire doors and all the electrical bits but that there is clearance enough for the loft room. He thinks (and thinks is the operative word) that the floor and other work has been done to the right standard but that they were just doing it bit by bit - hopefully getting it signed off as they go but I doubt it and that's why it is on so cheap.
TBH I'd probably use it as a huge dressing room (maybe with a bath) without any of the work, which I assume would not give us insurance problems as it would be clothes storage?

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TeacupDrama · 21/01/2014 21:10

if it has a bath it will be a room and building regs apply, but putting a floor in and wardrobes/ cupboards lighting and sockets make it a well fitted loft not a room but if you sold on it would still be a loft not a room

ohhifruit · 21/01/2014 21:18

Oh yes Teacup I'm not under any illusions that it would be anything other than a loft in that case. We're not buying it based on the loft, it's just an added extra that we'd have a number of people out to look at before doing something to it a number of years down the line (there are more than enough jobs to do before then.)

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ohhifruit · 23/01/2014 18:08

For £120k we got the house and the parking spot.
Now just need to hope it goes smoothly.

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oadcb · 23/01/2014 19:19

Good luck!

bishboschone · 23/01/2014 21:00

Well done Smile

ohhifruit · 24/01/2014 10:30

Thanks!
We had to get a bit stroppy about potential boundary issues putting us off and I think he just wants a quite life, so all the better for us!

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