Property enthusiasts! Come and tell me what you'd do to this house to get a bigger kitchen ...

[Mintyy]

Love this house (gentle roffle at the bathroom) but kitchen tiny.

What could be done to the kitchen/dining room/front door arrangement to make something more modern?

Or

make the loo twice the size and make into a utility for the washing machine and tumble dryer etc - as the loo is there there is water so will be easy to make into utility.

Either keep the loo in utility or move to shed

This would be less work so less expense

then re do kitchen with far better planning and cupboards

oh no the loo is by the front door not the back door - sorry

Fuck me £650k!!!!
I live in a naice part of Glasgow.

That house wouldn't sell for more than £120k up here.

Landan prices are mental!!!!

Hmmm, tricky when I don't know how much work you'd b prepared to do.

Personally I would extend the kitchen into the sitting room/back reception room, put in a breakfast bar and then hand one massive kitchen/dining/sitting room. Since you love that room, you could literally just live in it. Then turn the dining room into a snug/play room/tv room/den basically a separate reception room.

If the washing machine and drier can go into the cloakroom or a least in a cupboard that'd reduce sound. Or (common in Australia) could the washing machine to into the bathroom (all the carpet should deaden the noise!).

If open plan isn't your thing, then I'd put the kitchen into the dining room. If you can get sinks/drains towards the back of the kitchen then plumbing wouldn't have to be extended too far.

op do you want all the space in the lounge?

You could move the kitchen lounge wall out probably by three foot/one meter without making it seem the lounge is any smaller - but that three foot would fit another two double kitchen cupboards.

Then as you would need to put a new kitchen lounge wall in you can find some really good hidden sliding doors - so the doors are hidden inside the wall
www.google.co.uk/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=hidden+sliding+doors&oe=UTF-8&gws_rd=cr&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=a8E9UvT1IuKW0AWSkYCQAw

Bigger kitchen

Gosh, I'm loving all these ideas. You lot are brilliant!

Now I just need to find evidence for why £650,000 is too much in the area and sell my own house but I am sorely tempted ...

I think you're not going to get an eat-in kitchen out of that.

I'd have your table in the corner of the sitting room slap in front of the double-doors into the kitchen, maybe about 4ft away from them, and have the decor between that area and kitchen similar so it feels continuous (maybe a sideboard/dresser thing along the wall).

Then redesign the kitchen to be more efficient, as someone side lose the wall between kitchen and current "dining room" and run the units on down. That will give you a large well-equipped kitchen, whereas I think trying to bodge a table into it is going to make it feel cramped.

And keep the store as a separate utility. I look at houses where they've knocked every scrap of space at the back into one and think "but where you do keep your recycling/carrier bags/washing/wellies/crap?

Is it non standard construction?
What is the beam in the living room?

Ooh and get some nice double doors to replace the B&Q special offer georgian ones that are there at the moment. loads of fun mid-century stuff on ebay at the moment.

I also love the retro-ness of the current kitchen so if you do buy it and rip it out, let me know and we'll drive the 10 mins up the road and take the cupboards off your hands

You could move the kitchen into the back and have a big family kitchen dining with sofa etc and then knock current kitchen and dining room together to make a snug tv room. This means no formal living room but this layout does work well for family life esp with teenagers

noddyholder tbh that's what I think but could be expensive...

some of the ideas could be very expensive due to messing with the weight bearing walls, buildings regulations - need to keep seperate hallway downstairs due to having loft bedroom etc etc

I love these houses.

I would install a utility room in the current dining room with washing machine, freezer, storage etc, make the kitchen more spacious by removing some of the massive cupboards and adding ore workspace, remove the double doors from the kitchen to the reception room and have your dining table just inside.

I do know someone who lives in a house not far frm that one with the same sort of D/S layout - in theirs the kitchen is where the dining room is and they have an open hatch / half wall between the kitchen and dining room, and a lengthways table in the dining room. It might be a bit wider, though.

I'm also assuming it would be better all round not to do significant building work because you'll spend a fair bit of money and still end up with something that's a compromise in some way. That 60s/70s kitchen at the front arrangement is a bit odd to modern sensibilities but I think you just have to go with it.

Can't see it's very good value for money £650,000.

That fridge freezer is so strange. I wonder if the agent said something like "we need to show that there's room for a fridge freezer for the photos" and the owners took them a bit literally.

Cos i bet it usually lives just inside the dining room, is what I mean.

If you build a porch on the front to take you as far as you can go down the front garden - open up the space between the old kitchen, dining room and hallway, to create a space large enough to be hallway and kitchen diner area. Maybe position the front door in the dining room window area instead ( to use store as coats and bags storage )
for best results you'd need to change the entrance to the loo too and possibly change the stairs to a U shape all in lounge area ...
Best off consulting an architect who has local knowledge and who may have already tackled a similar property dilemma.
:-)

The 'dining room' is less than 6ft wide.

The top of the kitchen wall is a window, so not supporting. I would bet that the wall was originally where the beam is in the living room. Take the kitchen out to there, put all the boring utility stuff in the dining room, inc a big freezer and a larder as it is 11 ft long, and then you would get an eat-in kitchen.

Or, put a single storey extension at the back to make half a new living room and use much more of the current living room to make a big family room.

Moving to the kitchen to the back would be extortionate as all the water and drainage appears to be at the front.

Here are pictures of another house nearby www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-34673239.html

The floor plan is no longer available but they've clearly played around with the layout. Note the difference in price. Yikes.

Would the garage really be just 6 feet wide? Could you even get a car in it? Is there a chance the measurements are wrong? Mind you it would be unlike Foxtons to measure something smaller than it is.

PrimalLass - Lots of load-bearing walls have windows in them .

Even if it is window the whole length?

Actually have just remembered we removed a load-bearing wall in an Edinburgh tenement that might have had a window. Neither of us can remember ...

Barbabeau
Thanks for that link.

I did think £650,000 was an ambitious price for the house on this thread but prices have been going totally bananas in this area recently.

However, as Foxtons are generally known for over-pricing, then that link is food for thought.

We would be downsizing; I'm not sure if that's the right thing to do in a rising market?