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Preparing at state primary for selective London girls’ schools at 11+

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MTHRVRD2030 · 30/04/2026 19:34

Hi everyone,
I’d really appreciate some advice from parents whose daughters attend (or have gone through the process for) top London girls’ schools such as SPGS, Godolphin & Latymer, etc.
I have a bright 4-year-old daughter. She has been reading since around 3.5 and is currently reading comfortably at Oxford Reading Tree Level 4–5. She enjoys books, discussing stories, word search-type activities, and loves Numberblocks. She’s been at an independent prep nursery/preschool since she was 2 and is very happy there. She also has weekly piano lessons, which she enjoys.
However, due to financial circumstances (I’m an international PhD student and we have two older children in state schools), we won’t realistically be able to continue with private primary education, although they offered us 50% bursary.
We’ve been offered a place at an outstanding local state primary in Leeds, which we are considering.
My question is: how feasible is it to prepare a child from a state primary for highly selective London girls’ schools at 11+ (especially with the aim of scholarship/bursary)?
I’d be really grateful for any practical advice on:

  1. What makes the biggest difference in preparation (beyond just academics)?
  2. Whether being in an independent prep is a significant advantage at this level
  3. How best to structure early years (ages 4–10) if aiming for these schools
  4. Any specific things you wish you had done earlier

I’m not looking to over-pressure her; she’s very happy and curious, and I want to keep it that way, but I’d like to make informed decisions early if possible.

Thank you so much in advance.

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HighRopes · Today 12:50

My experience was the same as Bonjour and channelling. A local primary meant there was lots of time for my DC to try out different things and see if they liked them.

I think the best thing we did was give them lots of time to read, the opportunity to try whatever sport/music/dance/drama/chess/art class that was easily available locally, and being prepared to take them along at the right time with the right kit even when it was inconvenient. One barely did any sport, let alone competitive! They both got a lot out of choir and instrument lessons, though.

We did home prep for the exams from the summer before Y5, because there was a lot their primary hadn’t taught them in terms of exam technique, NVR and some of the more advanced maths.

MTHRVRD2030 · Today 14:20

user149799568 · 01/05/2026 11:22

First, they may expect a significant increase in income once they finish their PhD... I happen to believe that most students' incomes increase after they earn their degrees. You're free to disagree.

Second, their oldest is 18 so should be completely independent in seven years. The oldest is also "heading to a top university in the US on full merit-based funding". Their second is currently 13 so should be almost done with uni by then and OP may be hoping for a similar level of financial support.

Third, the average house price in London is about £675,000, the median is about £500,000, and there's no reason that OP might not be planning to live in a property cheaper than the median. Plenty of children at the top schools have long commutes from well outside Zones 1 & 2.

Fourth, there are no shortage of threads on mumsnet asking about bursaries and scholarships at top London schools. There's no reason OP shouldn't be thinking about this, especially if jobs in their field are concentrated around London. And, practically speaking, most bursaries at private schools go to children with well educated but not particularly well remunerated parents, such as academics or civil servants.

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Thank you, user149799568, for your post. It made me feel a bit better reading your perspective.

You’re right that my 18 year old has been trying to become independent and even started helping us with her little sister‘s pre-school fees although in small amounts. This means a lot to me. And yes, we are hopeful about our income increasing after my studies. Still, it can feel quite disheartening when people look at PhD students especially older doctoral students and automatically associate that with poverty. This perception seems even stronger when the student is from overseas. But being a PhD student and not being able to afford private education at this particular moment does not mean we are “poor” in a broader sense. In reality, paying international 3x higher than domestic tuition fees alongside living and family expenses is simply not feasible for many, including average British families.

Reading some comments above I felt like “you’re already too poor to consider top schools in London; don’t even think about it.” This feels quite discouraging.
Also temporarily not being able to afford private education doesn’t mean I should just leave everything entirely to my children’s own path and “see what happens,” right? As a parent, I just want to create structure, guidance, and support, to learn from others with similar experiences so that when the time comes for the 11+, we are prepared.

One thing that has become clear since I moved here - 4 years ago that 11+ preparation is one of the most widely discussed topics here in the UK; I see offline, online platforms, talks among colleagues, or within communities and thinking about as early as possible came very natural to me.

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MTHRVRD2030 · Today 14:28

Ubertomusic · 01/05/2026 12:58

That's more clear now, thank you.

We did 4+ for super selective schools in London as 11+ for them is brutal so that would be my practical insight - prepare for a lot of stress.

Girls, especially those who come from single sex schools, are usually very confident (even if it's a quiet confidence) and often quite competitive. State school is not going to develop this so make sure your DD is doing some competitive sport outside of school (if you're American, that's a must anyway, I guess?)

Schools differ widely in their assessments and preferences so you would need to research each school at least a couple of years before entry (there are clashes between open days so one year wouldn't be enough but some schools don't register earlier for open days). The most popular schools will not necessarily be the best fit for your DC, for various reasons.

Re. extra curricular activities - there are lots once you're in London, House of Science, maths circles etc. Not sure about online schools but I would be vary of gluing a 4-5yo to a screen, they learn better in real life at this age.

@Ubertomusic -thank you for your post.

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Ubertomusic · Today 16:48

It's good to be poor OP 😂 That would mean you could get a bursary as scholarships are rarely more than 50% so you would need to top
it up in any case.

You're not poor though as you own a house. Some (not all) schools take your assets into consideration when making bursary decisions. You will need to double check with schools nearer the exams (rules may change over years).

Is your DS 6th form application/move to London in the same year that 7+ would be for your DD? You could try both, top schools usually don't give scholarships for 7+ but you could try for a bursary and it would be easier if you're still "poor" by then :) For a PhD scholar 7+ prep is very easy to do by yourself. At 11+ schools may already be looking at an individual in front of them, not just maths/English/VR/NVR.

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