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Farnborough Hill or Tormead

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OneSnappyCoralPoster · 12/03/2026 18:51

We’re trying to decide between Tormead Senior and Farnborough Hill for my daughter. She is at Tormead Prep at the moment due to the Rydes Hill merger. I know the downsides of Tormead with the cramped campus, clinical feel etc and we are drawn in by the beautiful environment of Farnborough Hill but the academics aren’t as strong. My daughter is motivated and my gut says she’ll thrive and do well, and perhaps be happier in a less assessment heavy, nurturing environment, but I’m keen to hear views from families at both.

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Schoogle · 13/03/2026 04:02

Wasn’t the deadline last month…?

I don’t think Tormead is cramped, especially being in a town centre… it’s a lovely campus. It’s a lovely school too, we can’t go for various reasons but would have been happy to. Lots of girls very happy and a large cohort moving up this year from the prep. Don’t know Farnborough.

Seiheiki · 13/03/2026 04:24

Farnborough Hill... rife with bullying, self harm, enforced religious aspect, poor standards of teaching.

mandm2026 · 13/03/2026 07:36

seiheiki are you a parent at Farnborough Hill? I have two girls there and don’t recognise the school you’re describing at all. My daughters are both extremely happy there and all their friends are happy too. It is a Catholic school but the ‘Catholic’ part really isn’t overwhelming - compared to their old primary school it’s almost non existent! The odd mass at the end of term and on important days. They put so much effort into ensuring the happiness and mental health of the girls - wellbeing centre and chill out rooms and counsellors, so much stuff.
you can’t compare the schools academically as they are different in their selection - FH takes a broader spectrum of abilities and does a fantastic job getting the best out of the girls academically. They definitely stretch the more able. We’re so happy with our choice of school.

Seiheiki · 13/03/2026 08:00

Yes I am. For transparency, I've also taught several students who have also been to that school and left due to the issues I've stated. Currently withdrawing my child for lack of SEN support.

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mandm2026 · 13/03/2026 08:31

I’m sorry to hear that that is your experience. To be fair, my children don’t have SEN so I can’t comment from experience on that although I do have a friend whose daughter does and she is over the moon with the support she has received at FH.
I’m so interested in your comments on teaching. We’ve been parents there for a good few years now and have never had an issue.

Seiheiki · 13/03/2026 12:26

There is something that I must be fair to Farnborough Hill over.. two of my child's friends lost their Dad 11 months ago. The supported that that particular family has received has been superb. If I'm critical of other issues, it's only fair that I highlight something they've handled impressively.

OneSnappyCoralPoster · 13/03/2026 12:33

It’s cramped because it is in a town centre - nothing they can do about that, but the decor could be a bit warmer! Blank walls and lots of children on iPads.

I’m really sorry to hear about your FH experience and the need to pull your child out, that must be heartbreaking. Like the other poster said I had heard fantastic things about the pastoral care so this is a shame. I can’t see the news articles you referred to - would you mind sharing a bit more information?

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OneSnappyCoralPoster · 13/03/2026 12:34

I’m also keen to understand whether on the inside finances are a problem? I noted a smaller intake than previous years?

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Covent · 13/03/2026 17:14

OneSnappyCoralPoster · 13/03/2026 12:34

I’m also keen to understand whether on the inside finances are a problem? I noted a smaller intake than previous years?

I haven’t heard any problems with either schools. There’s lots of rumours on Mumsnet for all schools. Remember it’s not official and people have their own interests and views.
My DD went to a prep everyone saying was going to close down! She’s been there the whole time and it’s grown - I’m so glad I didn’t listen to the rumours.

@Seiheiki - have you found an alternative option. I’m sorry to hear about the experience.

pepayfelix · 13/03/2026 17:35

I went to Farnborough Hill (a few years ago admittedly) and for the most part I absolutely loved it. It was a very nurturing and positive environment when I was there. I agree it’s not massively academic, and I think I could have done with a bit more of that, but it is a really nice place to go to school. The religious side was always optional - you didn’t have to go to mass if you were non Catholic and there were quite a few Muslim and Hindu girls when I was there.

FujiMountain · 14/03/2026 14:40

Both schools are different, FH is less academic, by a decent amount too, their results are a long way behind Tormead results - that said - they are open to a broader range of girls, and 'that' is fantastic for them and those girls...

Why - because not all girls are academic and need different environments to grow and thrive in. And maybe if your DD is that way inclined it will be a great choice for her, as I've only ever heard very limited bad things - admittedly I never hear anyone rave about it either.

Tormead - well you're already there it seems - and I dont recognise your viewpoint to be honest - however I can see where it may have come from as someone who went to Rydes Hill before - RH was, and IS (thanks to Tormead saving it) a stunning little school, with the emphasis on little, and it didnt have ipads, facilities much, learning was very traditional there as a result - we viewed it twice.

Fundamentally though, thats why it failed, very little investment, no money, behind the times (perhaps no ipads!) and the crumbling buildings / environment turned us off.

Lucky for the legacy of RH as a school (i apreciate hard for the girls who had to move, but better that than a no-notice closure and nowhere to go) its been saved and invested in and aparently doing very well now it's gone coed and the nursery facilities improved.

Contrast to the RH of old, and a few other senior schools in the area, Tormead is always investing, the walls are white because they are always being painted and the girls take a huge pride in how they / their school looks. Now if by 'clinical' you mean NOT old fashioned and traditional (in a good way, like FHs lovely old buildings and Country style grounds), then yes, tormead is very, perhaps a better word, 'modern'.

Pastoral care at Tormead is outstanding, and most parents will agree their daughters are very well looked after and things are intercepted and managed swiftly and well. FH I dont know much about, but I can imagine its doing OK too!

Your question here, I guess, seems one of do i:

A: Go with FH because it has more room and (although I know they do have/use them!) don't embrace ipads/devices in school for learning,

Or

B: Stick with Tormead because it will fullfull the academic requirements of my DD aspirations?

On finances, a quick search shows TM with assets of c. £20m and on top £10m in the bank.
FH assets £11m and £3m in the bank, when you strip out fees in lieu.

So they are both alive and well.

I agree with a PP though, this year is the first major bite year of the VAT, plus cost of living is dire for all - so I would imagine all schools fielding a smaller year 7 this year, apart from the bigger schools like GHS who have 'aparently' opened up the doors - which unless everyone is super smart this year, will be a financial decision.

All in all, courses for horses, but unless logistics (or your DDs feelings) work for you better in Farnborough, I wouldn't be moving.

Notonyours · 14/03/2026 15:09

My DD at Tormead and honestly the cramped an clinical description isnt really my thought.

Yes it’s in the town centre so it doesn’t have huge grounds, apart from Urnfield, which is epic! but the campus is lovely and well used. Theres always lots going on, sport, music, drama, clubs so it’s a busy school, but in a good way.

I can see why it might feel busier coming from somewhere like Rydes Hill as that was a much smaller school with a different feel. When the RH girls joined everyone I know really did try to make you guys feel welcome because we all knew how hard that move must have been. Also quite a percentage of RH yr6 girls used to join the senior school every year anyway, in my eldests year there are several and they settled really well.

Year 7 always has lots of girls joining from smaller schools too and they’re welcomed and also do well, so I wouldn’t worry about that side of things.

Academically it’s strongwr than ever but it’s not a hot house, the deputy head academic is wodnerful and my dd only signs her praise. I really dont recognise the pressure people sometimes talk about, and, if im honest, maybe thats just as a result of a 'style change' from rydes hill to Tormead? The teachers are very supportive and the general ethos is that it’s fine not to get something right straight away, the girls learn from it and help each other. We always see and hear off lots of hugs and no feelings of embarrassment, no matter what the result, after a test!

There’s also a big group moving up from the prep this year, and a number had offers from GHS but chose to stay at Tormead, which probably says a lot about how families view the academics and the environment, which might help ypur devision making.

Are you year 6 though, as the deadline has surely passed by now?

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mandm2026 · 14/03/2026 16:06

Just wanted to come back to the academic side of things: GCSE results at Tormead are stronger than at FH and we’ve already talked about the different intake etc, and FH do get the best out of their girls as far as I can see.

Interestingly though (and I’m happy to be corrected if I’ve misread the data here): FH seems to perform better at A-level than Tormead. According the government school data website, they both have similar average scores at A-level (Tormead very slightly higher point score) but the Good School Guide website indicates that Farnborough Hill actually performs better for higher grades: 37.8% grade AAB or higher at Farnborough Hill compared to 31.5% at Tormead (2025 figures). So again very similar and not a really significant difference but certainly not fair to suggest that FH is less academic than Tormead for A-levels.

AndreaKnowsBest · 14/03/2026 17:37

mandm2026 · 14/03/2026 16:06

Just wanted to come back to the academic side of things: GCSE results at Tormead are stronger than at FH and we’ve already talked about the different intake etc, and FH do get the best out of their girls as far as I can see.

Interestingly though (and I’m happy to be corrected if I’ve misread the data here): FH seems to perform better at A-level than Tormead. According the government school data website, they both have similar average scores at A-level (Tormead very slightly higher point score) but the Good School Guide website indicates that Farnborough Hill actually performs better for higher grades: 37.8% grade AAB or higher at Farnborough Hill compared to 31.5% at Tormead (2025 figures). So again very similar and not a really significant difference but certainly not fair to suggest that FH is less academic than Tormead for A-levels.

In 2025, which is pretty similar to 2024 and previous years, from the schools own websites

Tormead A*-B was 82%
Farnborough A*-B - 76%

So quite close, but actually, 6% (which has varied between 6-15% above over the years) is a lot of grades, so the point a PP made does really stand, in that it does achieve consistently higher results. Remembering A-levels aren't the be-all and Tormeads GCSE are very much higher, meaning girls are able to get into other sixth forms should they wish (a good number do!) and / or vocational courses.

Lastly, not nessisarily an indicator, more an observation, as some girls leave for other things, but the number of oxbridge and Russell Group destinations at Tormead is much higher - again according to their own websites.

Its also worth asking what subjects FH do at A-Level and how many girls are on them, this isnt avaiable on their website - tormeads is, and the majority of girls take challenging subjects like sciences, further maths, etc. Not a criticism of any subject, but some, and we all know it, are easier. Again, this isnt a FH fact, but worth asking.

But to the original posters query. I have known parents with girls at FH and its always suited them well and they've been happy. But, Tormead is not to be snubbed due to campus or white walls - it has a strong reputation and is very well regarded for learning and pastoral care.

mandm2026 · 14/03/2026 17:55

The numbers of girls taking different subjects at a-level is available on the governments comparison website and FH holds its own in the sciences and ‘harder’ subjects, obviously taking into account that Tormead’s year group is larger. In fact, despite being a smaller year group, more girls took biology and chemistry at Farnborough Hill than at Tormead for A-level last year. Also, as a percentage of the year group, far more girls took physics at FH. Conversely, FH had far fewer girls taking a soft subject like Business studies.
(Not trying to be argumentative but the facts are there :-) )

mandm2026 · 14/03/2026 19:13

I’ve gone down a bit of a worm hole looking at the data 😆 - what a fun Saturday evening 😆. Again, as a percentage of year group, more girls took maths a-level at farnborough hill than at Tormead. Further maths was 8% FH vs 9% Tormead so quite similar.

I’m really not trying to be argumentative 😆 but I do think it’s worth pointing out that Farnborough Hill definitely holds its own at A-level both in terms of results and in terms of difficulty of subjects. Looking at data from Good Schools Guide the average grade in each subject is the same for both schools (apart from English). Mostly As. So they’re both doing well!

I think because FH has a more mixed bag at GCSE (intake etc) it’s easy to overlook their stronger a-level results.

anyway they’re both great schools so you can’t go wrong at either!

AndreaKnowsBest · 14/03/2026 20:31

mandm2026 · 14/03/2026 19:13

I’ve gone down a bit of a worm hole looking at the data 😆 - what a fun Saturday evening 😆. Again, as a percentage of year group, more girls took maths a-level at farnborough hill than at Tormead. Further maths was 8% FH vs 9% Tormead so quite similar.

I’m really not trying to be argumentative 😆 but I do think it’s worth pointing out that Farnborough Hill definitely holds its own at A-level both in terms of results and in terms of difficulty of subjects. Looking at data from Good Schools Guide the average grade in each subject is the same for both schools (apart from English). Mostly As. So they’re both doing well!

I think because FH has a more mixed bag at GCSE (intake etc) it’s easy to overlook their stronger a-level results.

anyway they’re both great schools so you can’t go wrong at either!

A rabbit hole indeed - maybe a glass of wine instead next time!

Theres a VERY big reason why no one, ever, uses the government datasets.

The difficulty you have here is that a few different datasets are being mixed together, which makes the comparison look clearer than it actually is.

The figure you’re quoting from the government site is AAB or higher in facilitating subjects.

That’s a very specific accountability metric, it only counts certain subjects and depends on particular combinations , so it doesn’t measure overall A-level performance.

That’s why all schools (inc TM & FH) always publish the headline results like A-A or A-B** instead of gov. numbers.

On those like-for-like figures, the most recent results show around 82% A*-B at Tormead vs about 76% at FH, so Tormead is still ahead overall. Im not affiliated with TM, but i work a lot with local schools, both state and indepedent and use this data, and its important to know what it means and how to use it.

The subject tables on the government site are also "entries" rather than "unique pupils", and the cohorts are quite small, unlike a large maintained secondary, which is where the data starts to become slightly useful. The site shows 55 students in the Tormead A-level cohort and 37 at FH.

With numbers like that, a difference of two or three pupils can swing the DfE percentages quite a lot, so comparing subject uptake between schools isn’t especially robust.

The Good Schools Guide figure you mentioned also appears to be the same AAB facilitating-subjects metric pulled from the government dataset, rather than the schools’ headline results, so again it isn’t directly comparable with overall A-level outcomes. This is likely because they have data gaps from schools websites and an easy way to fill all of them is to scrub the DfE website to plug holes in their pay-to-view articles.

It’s also worth looking at wider academic pictures, something the state maintained sector do a lot, as it gives the very best indication of attainment:

GCSE results reflect the full cohort, whereas sixth forms are naturally filtered because some pupils leave after GCSE. Tormead’s GCSE results are significantly stronger, yet it still sends a number of girls elsewhere for sixth form, nearly half leave for co-ed selective sixth forms and some state. Even with that, its A-level cohort is still larger than FH’s. FH GCSE year groups are obviously bigger than 37, so quite a number of pupils must be leaving before sixth form, which inevitably changes the academic profile of the group that stays.

Finally, if you look at university destinations, there’s a fairly clear difference as well, with Tormead consistently sending more girls on to Russell Group and Oxbridge universities.

I admire the level of detail you’ve gone into on the government website (a deep dive on a Saturday evening!) but I’m not sure those particular tables really support the conclusions you’re drawing from them.

Again, like you say, both are stellar good choices, but, as an education data nazi at work, i find using data to achieve your point of view is misleading, and wine is definitely the better choice.

In summary:

Tormead gets better 'headline' results year in, year out at A-Level, better uni destinations, and, as a year 7 co-hort, their results as a group, at GCSE, when tested, are many miles ahead, showing the academic profile of the student pre-sixth form.

I imagine if everyone fro Tormead actually stayed from GCSE to A-level,.as did those at Farnborough Hill, statistically the gap would be huge between the two establishments.

FujiMountain · 14/03/2026 20:49

Lol, I was just about to post something and Andrea's came up! Hashtag epic length!

But, basically, I was going to write almost the same thing. The government website is a terrible comparason tool and literally no one uses it as the figures are so easily distorted. It doesnt even list the amount of kids entered and then tested properly.

Go with the numbers the schools put out, thats why every indepedent school, including Farnborough Hill, Tormead, GHS, RGS, St Pauls, Fettes, Eton, does.

Pp is right too, the year 7 as a whole, and its academic journey as a group is assessed at GCSE. Tormeads GCSEs are amongst the very best locally. Its just that half of them leave for other destinations at sixth form, usually for boys, which is bonkers, but hey ho, they do.

A-levels - well you deal with what you have left. And the published school results tell the story.

Again, I feel like im bashing, and im not, but its important we dont get lost down the rabbit hole!

As everyone keeps saying FH is a good school, TM os a good school to. But theyre different in terms of location, site and ethos. But theyre also different on results and TMs are ahead.

The OP won't go wrong at either academically, he/she just needs.to decide which school is the best fit for their daughter in all other respects.

SuperZebras · 14/03/2026 21:39

@OneSnappyCoralPoster Hey OP.

I get the worry about the campus feeling a bit cramped, it's right in town, so yeah, not green acres like FH. But once they're in it day-to-day, most girls don't mind and plenty of room. Plus being in Guildford had major pluses, like transport, shops, coffee shops lots of other kids from the nice state schools and indie, etc. Guildford is a lovely town. Yes the facilities are decent (white walls do get repainted a lot!), and there is proper green space on the lawns and the back field girls use loads. It feels buzzy and friendly rather than sterile to us.

Academically, not withstanding the chapter and verse above, Tormead does edge it on A-levels and smashes it on gcses. We dont find it hot house at all, its often a choice for many who want good teaching and learning, but dont want a GHS.

Your DD must already know the place by now, has mates there, and won't have the upheaval of switching which is huge at that age. Does she want to stay or is this being led by you, thats an important one too?

FH looks lovely and nurturing, no doubt, and plenty love it there too, but was way to far out for us to consider. If she's happy and motivated where she is, staying often works out really well, no big change needed, familiar support, and solid results. But if shes after a change then it looks like a nice option

Good luck! x 😊

mandm2026 · 14/03/2026 21:40

I’m actually not that bothered because, as you say, the difference in A-level results between the 2 schools is statistically insignificant given the relatively small cohorts. I mainly went on my deep dive in response to your suggestion above that girls at Farnborough Hill might be getting better results as a result of taking ‘softer’ subjects rather than science and maths, whereas the data shows that the this is not the case. I think it’s important to clarify.

I also feel that I need to reply to the blanket statement about Tormead being consistently ahead in terms of oxbridge - yes last year they were but as far as I can see the year before FH sent more! Again numbers are so low as to be statistically insignificant but you have to be fair!

CosyLimeZebra · 14/03/2026 22:01

@OneSnappyCoralPoster , @mandm2026 is obviously passionate about FH, fair play if youre paying to be there, and seems
not for turning. FH sounds good for the nurturing/grounds side (totally get the appeal), but no one's going to shift her view on the actual numbers, she's fighting the cause hard! 😅

My advise - If your DD is already happy and settled at Tormead with mates and no big worries, that continuity, community & proven academic stretch might outweigh the prettier campus.

Don't know farnborough hill school much, but who in Guildford or west London does tbf? Tormead however is a big name in the west london commuter belt, A3 and Waterloo trainline, inc. this side of Surrey. It seems like your stretching out the wrong direction, unless you live that way? Don't end up driving to far or making friendship groups outside of your range - not fun!

U know what, just ignore the stats rabbit hole and go with your gut and how she feels day-to-day.

mandm2026 · 14/03/2026 22:06

Absolutely, you can’t really go wrong, so just go with the school that feels right for your DD. I have nothing at all against Tormead, I don’t know it all as I’m not that side. And it’s obviously a great school. Naturally I’m biased toward FH as my girls are so happy there and it’s a wonderful place. Good luck OP, I’m sure your DD will thrive wherever she goes 🙂

SuperZebras · 14/03/2026 22:20

My two pennies on GCSE 2025

Tormead 82% grades 9-7

Farmborough Hill 48% grade 9-7

And im out - getting far too many notifications on this thread! Lol 😆 night all!

OneSnappyCoralPoster · 16/03/2026 12:44

Thanks everyone for your input! I appreciate all the views and can see lots of passionate parents (and perhaps some staff…) who are very proud of their schools. It’s great to hear from parents at Tormead senior who find the campus works for them. Indeed it reminds me a lot of my old school and I don’t remember feeling couped up, however my daughter is different to me. Her happy place is in the garden! I’m also conscious that the digital age is stifling a lot of children’s learning. Indeed this is the first generation that has lower IQs than their parents and that won’t be helped by AI! We have accepted a place at Tormead, there is just a niggle in my gut. I suppose we can see how things play out, and moves further down the line aren’t out of the question if it isn’t going the way we hope. Thank you once again for sharing your thoughts

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