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IQ Tests for children or Intelligence

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richfield · 26/06/2010 09:31

Please can anyone shed some light on the sort of IQ testing used for 5year olds both at state or independant schools?

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emy72 · 26/06/2010 09:34

IQ testing for 5 year olds? Gosh I never heard of such a thing. Will be interested to see if anyone else has........bit scary if you ask me!!!!

mrz · 26/06/2010 09:36

IQ testing isn't common practice in state schools. I wouldn't confuse IQ with achievement...

Magalyxyz · 26/06/2010 09:41

Well, my son's IQ was assessed (don't know how) because he is on the autistic spectrum and I think IQ can be compromised (either way). But it would be hard to measure I think... why do you need to know? Just observe how well your child is coping with their school work. You don't need an absolute definitive stamp do you? It can change from year to year as well. My other child (nt) seems to fall behind a bit every second year when there is a big jump, and then by the end of that two year period she is back up at the top of the class again...

mrz · 26/06/2010 10:09

EPs often use tests which give IQ but it isn't a standard thing for most children in maintained schools.

CantSupinate · 26/06/2010 13:19

I had my IQ tested at age 7; it is quite commonly tested in the USA for "bright" children.

There are special tests for children that sort of age, that take into account their relative lack of life experience. I imagine you'd have to find a private educational psychologist to administer one, and they should advise you that the error margin is considered fairly high, especially for children under 10yo. hth.

MathsMadMummy · 26/06/2010 13:33

why? I don't think they do test it do they?

FWIW I had mine tested but my parents arranged it, not the school.

purepurple · 26/06/2010 13:46

Children are assessed at the end of their reception year against the Early Years Foundation Stage Profile.
The notion of IQ tests is very old fashioned and not of much use really. Emotional intelligence is much more important for a child's development.

notagrannyyet · 26/06/2010 13:49

3 of mine had IQ tests done. It was part of the dyslexia assessment. Don't think it's done for every DC. I do know some parents get hold of tests and do them with DC at home. My SIL did for some reason.

MathsMadMummy · 26/06/2010 13:55

why do you ask OP?

richfield · 26/06/2010 14:58

Thank you to everyone that has responded.

@ why do you ask OP?:

I was told that children undertake these tests on entry to some schools hence the interest of knowing their names, what sort of tests they are and examples of them. Please can anyone help?

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LIZS · 26/06/2010 15:05

Part of NC includes what is called a baseline assessment in Reception (possibly at intervals in other years) but that isn't same as IQ and is really about monitoring progress in basic skills and "value added". dc do Pips and Cats from time to time and that is an opportunity to compare potential against how child is performing in class . Specifically they cover Maths, Literacy and Verbal and Non Verbal Reasoning, so again differ to standard IQ tests. The kids get given them at no notice and we are fed collated results at a much later date.

richfield · 26/06/2010 15:13

Thank you, very helpful. Are there any websites to get examples of them?

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LIZS · 26/06/2010 15:16

Bond assessment papers are similar iirc but don't think they start until aged 6 or 7

LIZS · 26/06/2010 15:19

oh and tbh I'm very sceptical about what the results are supposed to illustrate as regards potential as they failed to correlate well in ds' case with an Ed Psych evaluation.

mrz · 26/06/2010 15:21

The most commonly used test (SEN) is the WISC -IV Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children and/or the WIAT-II Wechsler Individual Achievement Test used with children from the age of 4

LIZS · 26/06/2010 15:23

Think the EP used the first one of those on ds , and results were of far more interest and made more sense than his Pips and Cats scores!

Lizcat · 26/06/2010 16:08

My DDs independent school uses PIPs testing at the start and end of reception, at the end of years 1,2,3 and 5. We were not told the score in reception as they were baselines, but we have been told in Year 1. DD got amazing scores proud mummy moment.

mrz · 26/06/2010 16:15

PIPS isn't an IQ test

LIZS · 26/06/2010 16:45

no I realise that but they painted an overly negative picture of his weaker areas which the IQ tests (broken down into components) showed was not nearly so, just relative to his strengths.

mrz · 26/06/2010 16:54

Sorry LIZS I was replying to Lizcat not you.

LIZS · 26/06/2010 17:00

ah right , sorry

richfield · 26/06/2010 21:27

Fantastic! It is becoming clearer to me.

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richfield · 27/06/2010 21:24

Thank you to everyone that responded.

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cornsilk5793 · 27/06/2010 21:25

Teachers aren't qualified to assess IQ.

Ladymuck · 27/06/2010 22:07

Dcs do CAT tests at the start of each academic year. One school tells us the result, the other doesn't. They're not a formal IQ test, but you do get a score which indicates how far your child is from the mean across the different areas as LIZS points out.