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can state primary education plus tutoring = equivalent of private?

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wheelsonthebus · 11/08/2009 14:16

we planned to privately educate dc, but dh lost his job and now dc is going to a state primary - downgraded from good to satisfactory by ofsted . if we have dc tutored from yr 1 say, can we get up to standard of a private school(with a view to moving dc if our finances improve - possibly at 7, but definitely at 11). Can an hour a week really achieve anything? Anyone done this from early on? Interested in any views. I now work f/t so doing lots of stuff with dc after school myself is not really an option (except at weekends). I'd be interested to know when tutoring shd really start. My friend said her primary school gets great league table results but that's because most parents pay tutors. Also; what do most people get tutors for - maths or English or both?

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trickerg · 15/08/2009 18:23

or even foxinsocks!!

teamcullen · 15/08/2009 18:24

I'd rather my Dc was taught something constructive than 4 bloody hours of cricket!

GrimmaTheNome · 15/08/2009 18:24

DH was reading the FAQ for a school fairly near here and one of the questions was,'Can I have more than one pony in the school stable?'. (the answer was that usually the limit was one pony).

I think that told him all he needed to know as to whether our DD would possibly fit in there!

Quattrocento · 15/08/2009 18:26

at Grimma. She couldn't bear to leave all of them behind?

Metella · 15/08/2009 18:30

It is clear that some children are getting an excellent state education with extra-curricular activities coming out of their ears and specialist teachers etc.

I just wish some posters would acknowledge that not all state primary schools are like that. If I had a school like mrz's nearby I would use it but I don't so I have to pay.

At least I am comparing like with like, i.e. I am comparing my local primary to my local prep rather than making sweeping generalisations!!!

GrimmaTheNome · 15/08/2009 18:32

I do like that DDs school does quite a lot of sport (much of it in lunchtimes/after school) precisely because she's not naturally sporty and wouldn't be doing it outside school or be picked out as having potential. (I think someone else said this several pages back). I don't mind the time spent on this because they have a slightly longer day and cover the national curriculum plus some extra stuff very well.

If any school is claiming 'their children are approx 2 years ahead of where an average state school child would be.' I'd take that with a large pinch of salt. Or at least query what was meant by it. 2 years ahead in content/mature understanding - unlikely. Getting level 4 sats in yr 4 instead of 6 - possibly.

trickerg · 15/08/2009 18:33

In case you don't belive mrz, here's the link to the national sports strategy - primary schools have link teachers who liaise with professional who provide the coaching.

www.playingforsuccessonline.org.uk/Pages/default.aspx

Metella · 15/08/2009 18:34

Why isn't it happening in my local primary then?

vinblanc · 15/08/2009 18:35

TC,

Andy Murray did not get his tennis tuition at Dunblane Primary School!!!

Metella · 15/08/2009 18:37

Actually may be the local primary get away with the fact that a premiership team send someone along once a week for an hour in the autumn and spring terms for a maximum of 20 children and charged at £4.50 per week.

thedolly · 15/08/2009 18:37

'by focusing on underachieving pupils between 9 and 14'

vinblanc · 15/08/2009 18:39

More Ed Bollocks, trickerg.

vinblanc · 15/08/2009 18:40

Sounds like our cricket club, metella

AramintaCane · 15/08/2009 18:45

where did that come from thedolly ?

hocuspontas · 15/08/2009 18:48

Serious question - can you be sporty AND academic at private schools?

Taking vinblanc's example of 2 hours a day cricket. If you are not sporty this must be a waste of time if you are forced to do sports. If you can study or are given alternative lessons during that time then ok but the cricketers are losing out and are then 10 hours a week behind the academics.

Have I over thought this and got it completely wrong?

vinblanc · 15/08/2009 18:54

My understanding is that prep school pupils all do games each afternoon. There are teams for each ability, and they also have the opportunity to do tennis and athletics in the summer. Children do tend to enjoy playing outside, even if they don't have the initiative to come up with it themselves.

I think this is a good thing. I think that some kids need to be forced to do sports, and looking back, they benefit. They also get the opportunity to negotiate and 'off-games' pass - another lifeskill.

thedolly · 15/08/2009 19:00

It came from the Nation Sports Strategy link
provided by trickerg

thedolly · 15/08/2009 19:01

National even

AramintaCane · 15/08/2009 19:02

thedolly What did you mean I don't understand. Having been state educated I am obviously 2 years behind my peers.

AramintaCane · 15/08/2009 19:03

OOOH I missed off the question mark as well

vinblanc · 15/08/2009 19:03

convenient, araminta

AramintaCane · 15/08/2009 19:06

Huh

Greensleeves · 15/08/2009 19:08

most private schools are money for aold rope

state education is much better balanced, broader and better regulated

I wouldn't let my children within twenty miles of some of the inarticulate antisocial charlatans I've come across teaching in private schools - they would be laughed out of the interview in any decent state school

AramintaCane · 15/08/2009 19:10

Greensleeves to the rescue yay my hero.

Greensleeves · 15/08/2009 19:13

lol AC

and boarding schools = posh childrens homes

kennels, basically

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