This shocked the unshockable me!

[nightcrawler]

On return to school day, some of the children were very tired by lunchtime. I thought too much chocolate and not enough running around? An experienced person said - no - always after a holiday, a proportion of the children are tired 'cos parents keep them up late during the holiday so M&D get a late lie-in. The children get used to the late nights and late mornings. M&D forget to adjust for going back to school, so the children are knackered on school return. I would have dismissed this as cynical prejudice, except she then said - it will be child J, L, C, D, T, etc, etc - about 2/3 of the class! And she was correct. I thought I was unshockable, but this has left me .

PMSL at "I would have dismissed this as cynical prejudice" considering your earlier comment "I thought too much chocolate and not enough running around?"

I'm also interested to know how exactly the person in question knows that this is the reason for the children being tired. Does he/she go round checking up what time they go to bed every night?!

Thank you - your considered opinions have helped me to rationalise the fact that I shouldn't put my self-esteem in the hands of strangers. You respondents are a particuarly nasty breed of people. I don't give a shit what you post after this, as I will never read it. Signing off from Mumsnet. Yes, I know I will not be missed.

Nightcrawler - What did you expect? Everyone to agree with you? Sorry, but no one here from what I can gather has been nasty towards you, other than to say you are obviously not unshockable. They just haven't agreed with you.

I always remember my mum doing a countdown to back to school after the summer holidays. I had to go to bed at normal time 3-4 days before to get me back into the 'routine' (which were the big thing back then of course!) By Sunday night I had to be in bed just after tea I think!

I contemplated doing the sensible thing this week (dd is in reception) but am rebelling against my mum's logic a bit. Not that she gave me any lie ins really anyway, with the sun being up so early.

no-one has been nasty

a you generally of a delicate disposition?

Well, serves you right. Your OP was snide and nasty and made you sound like a judgemental moron - you don't know which parents let their DC stay up late and you don't know why they did it, and it is none of your business anyway.

The school regime dominates quite enough during term time. We've got to be allowed some freedom, sometime, surely?

oh come on...they are TIRED because they are back in the routine of having to be breakfasted and dressed and at school for 9am instead of slobbing around in PJs until whenever (it can't be just mine that do this?!), they are tired because they are WORKING not playing.

I don't really put mine to bed much later in school hols (am mean and need my evenings too much) but even if i did they would still wake at the same time every day regardless of bedtime. Nor does eating chocolate make them sluggish - in fact it makes DS2 hyper and then then gives him stomach cramps as it has milk in and he can on;y tolerate a small amount of milk.

Don't generalise people based on your own assumptions.

The OP must have lead a spectacularly sheltered life.

what an entertaining thread
quite weird

Lol, a flounce because no-one agreed with an Op? Now that is shocking

Mine get up the same time, regardless of what time I put them to bed! I do however let them stay up later in the school holidays. The nights are getting lighter and they want to be outside playing with their friends and Wheres the harm in this? I was always allowed to stay up later on a weekend and in the holidays. It has absolutely nothing to do with wanting a lie in for most families OP.

oh nightcrawler don't flounce, you were so nice to me earlier.

my ds(7) goes to bed at the same time even in the holidays, but would get up early even if he went to bed later.

ds(15) is probably stuggling, being used to rising at 1pm during the holidays.

It's pretty cheeky to assume a selfish motive for children staying up late in the holidays.

I kept my DCs up not because I am a selfish twat but because I enjoyed their company. It was nice just relaxing and having fun instead of the mad homework/dinner/bathtime/story that is the usual evening routine.

I'm sorry, this shocked you why exactly?

We let our kids have a lie-in every weekend so we do. Sometimes we don't get up until - gasp - 9.30!!!!!!

It's the parents who habitually keep their kids up past 11pm on weekday nights that should shock you, and even then I'm afraid that's just the norm.

I'd hate to think what horrors would make you faint with actual shock. That some kids get given crisps in their lunches perhaps?

Oh dear, I see she has gone already. Oh well, perhaps the shock really was too much for her.

It doesn't seem likely that you are unshockable~what else would shock you ~ maybe teachers/teaching assistants gossiping about children and parents with no evidence and drawing rather daft conclusions?

possible shockers..

maybe that some people buy cakes instead of making them...

maybe that some families have television sets...

Your flounce is even funnier than your OP and the follow-up. Nobody's been nasty to you, even though you were extremely judgey in your posts.

A "nasty breed of people"? Erm, I think it was you who uttered the first unpleasant words.

And if you work or volunteer in a school wouldn't it be helpful to understand the many reasons why parents have a different routine during the holidays?

I can still remember when I was a kid and used to stay up late in the holidays, especially the summer holidays, used to be up til 10pm sometimes, playing with the other kids on the street. I loved it!

I want the same for my children. It's got nothing to do with me wanting a lie in in the mornings. And mine get up the same time every morning anyway.

And what's wrong with wanting/having a lie in? Has it now been made into a crime?

Your self esteem in the hands of strangers?
er, the people you have judged and gossiped about did not even ask for their actions to be discussed or judged - however you willingly put your ideas forward for us to agree with or otherwise. Were you hoping that we would all join you and disapprove of the people whose behaviour YOU have offered up for all of us to go 'oooh, tut, how awful' alongside you?

Think about it!

OMG-we have found a new low! Dd's father has kept her up late over the weekend before term starts as he hasn't seen her for two weeks and wanted to see as much of her as he could-as if parents are not being judged enough already!