This shocked the unshockable me!

[nightcrawler]

On return to school day, some of the children were very tired by lunchtime. I thought too much chocolate and not enough running around? An experienced person said - no - always after a holiday, a proportion of the children are tired 'cos parents keep them up late during the holiday so M&D get a late lie-in. The children get used to the late nights and late mornings. M&D forget to adjust for going back to school, so the children are knackered on school return. I would have dismissed this as cynical prejudice, except she then said - it will be child J, L, C, D, T, etc, etc - about 2/3 of the class! And she was correct. I thought I was unshockable, but this has left me .

Really?

Sounds normal to me too, I don't think I know a single family who do not let their children stay up later in the holidays. It is a holiday for goodness sake, the time when children are supposed to unwind and forget about school! We always get back more towards normal a couple of days before the end of the holidays and I try not to let them get over-tired but basically, anything goes - that is what holidays are for for goodness sake!

pmsl at shocking

the sky is falling

Oh, yes, I also do not get a lie in, still have to be up at 6 regardless of when the dc get up!

Personally I think you and your teacher friend are a bit cynical!

You don't sound particularly unshockable to me.

My DC go to bed later when they don't have school the next day.

Not so that we can have a lie in (or not just that) but because it is nice to spend more time with them in the evening, particularly when DH is working.

Agree with MmeLindt.

Ds was known to go to bed as late as 9pm in the holidays. Is that so bad?

I take it your friend knows all those parents personally and they told her what they had done, otherwise it's just really crap gossip

My girls have been going to bed a bit later due to the holidays and lighter evenings.
What's so shicking about that?

shocking

My 7y DD has stayed up much later int he holidays than normal. She does at weekends too. And luckily for us she does actually generally lie in if she goes to bed laer.

However that isn't why we do it really. It is because int he holidays we are out and aboutdoing stuff, or maybe we wil go out for dinner after DH gets in from work. There are no activities or routines to me met so we go with the flow.

I can really shck you now. DD went to a sleep over with friends int he holiday. They were up til midnight - has a midnight feast, at midnight, of chocoate brownies and stuff. Then they were up before 7am. Shocking eh?! No, not really. It was the holidays. It was fun. She had the best time ever.

However, DD has no problem just switching back into school time mode once back - didn't seem any different today (first day back) than normal.

Do you not go to bed ater sometimes when it isn't a work night? I know I do!

Definitely not shocking news!!! You are very easily shocked IMo if this suprises you.

Surely you have heard the phrase "not on a school night."

Hi, solidgold, I may be a freak, but I certainly can't manage on 3 hours sleep a night. Even if I could, I wouldn't take it as a sign of some moral superiority. I am also not , and never was, outraged at the idea of parental extra sleep. My OP said that I was shocked that some parents deliberately kept young children up really late just so the parents could sleep in. IMO, this would only be a problem if this interfered with school attendance and performance. Certainly not a problem in school holidays, IYKWIM.

OP - I think call Childline. This constitutes abuse!!!!!!

Bloody hell, whatever next. Evil parents "manipulating" their children's sleep so they get a lie in. I take it your children don't regularly wake up at 5am, very-shockable-one?

I relish the lie-is to 5.30 or 6 that we might get - if we are very lucky - if the boys stay up an extra hour.

What on earth is wrong in parents actually wanting to spend some time with their children in the holidays and get some decent sleep?

Yeah but how do you know that they keep them up specifically to have a lie in?

Anyhow what is wrong in wanting a lie in once in a while?

How does she know that's why the children are up late? Have all the parents told her that's why they do it?

yep. i kept mine up & let them eat crap, sometimes, & we had fun.. thats what holiday are about.

ThingOne - right with you there. We might put them to bed one hour later but they are stil fully awake by 7.00 am on Saturday and Sunday morning and generally wake me up 'accidentally on purpose' by going SSSSssshhh very loudly at each other.

I stop being a very positive parent at that point.

how about parents who take their children for midnight swims in the holidays? (not at Easter evidently)

would that constitute neglect or could I pass it off as educational?

and no, I am not terribly keen on the idea of getting up at 6.30 in the holidays

Doesn't everyone do this?

I can't honestly believe you are shocked.

Seriously that is not shcoking, I have to wake my dc up for school mornings I sure as hell wont wake them in the holidays. They then tend to have later bed times as a result, I do however adjsut their bed times for going back, in fact I have to adjust bed times every weekend after a late friday and lie in saturday.

To avoid being woken in the morning if DD wakes early we taught her from an early age how to go downstairs, grab a juice carton and some fruit and how to use the Sky remote to watch TV or use the DVD player to watch a film

Is this thread a wind-up?

OP, i need to thank you, i had a truly crap day and this thread really made me laugh. what a good joke!

PS on the off chance you are being serious- how can i put it nicely, but you really need to get a life!

Oh shock horror my DDs aged 6 and 4 sometimes don't go to sleep until 10pm at night .
But we do put them to bed at 8pm is just that they just wont go to sleep

Do you work at the school? just wondering why you were there at lunchtime? Am also wondering how someone who works with children could be shocked by this.

The Daily Mail would probably be VERY interested in your revelations. They already think we are the crappest parents raising the crappest generation of children ever and this would just give them a hughely indignant article to print.