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What, in layman's terms, are they expected to be able to do in numeracy in Y1?

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imaginaryfriend · 30/01/2009 22:16

I've looked at various websites but to be frank I'm rubbish at maths and I don't know what they're on about.

Could anyone tell me, just roughly, what they're expected to achieve during Y1 in maths?

I'm asking because dd says she's finding it quite hard and I wondered what kind of things I could work on with her to help her.

She can do her 2, 5 & 10 times tables. She can add numbers fairly easily up to 10, struggles up to 20 and is totally confused about subtraction.

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Feenie · 30/01/2009 22:48

An 'average' year 1 child (i.e.no such thing!) should be able to:
·Use developing mathematical ideas and methods to solve practical problems·
Use mental strategies to solve simple problem
Use pictures to help explain what they did
Create or continue simple repeating patterns with shapes, pictures or objects e.g. when both the shape and colour are changing e.g. red triangle, blue oblong, green square, red triangle, blue oblong, green square
·Record numbers from 0 to 10 and associate them with the number of objects they have counted
·Count from 0 to 20
·Read and order numbers 0-20
·Recognise 0 as none and 0 in stories and rhymes and when counting and ordering
·Begin to use the fraction one-half
·Understand the operations of addition and subtraction as ?take away? and ?difference? and use related vocabulary
·Combine two groups by ?counting on? from one of the numbers
·Begin to know some addition facts, such as doubles of numbers to 5
·Solve addition and subtraction problems, involving up to 10 objects
·Begin to use + and = to record additions
·Visualise and name some common 2D shapes and 3D solids and describe features· Use them to make patterns, pictures and models
·Recognise and follow simple directional symbols such as arrows or footprints
·Compare two or more lengths, masses or capacities by direct comparison
·Tell the time to o?clock on an analogue clock
·Sort objects/ pictures into a large-scale Venn or Carroll diagram
·Use objects or pictures to create a simple block graph
·Make direct comparisons between two sets using the language most and least, more or less

Times tables are very impressive at her age! Things you can do to help would be:
baking, weighing, measuring, putting things into everyday contexts as much as possible, particularly with very simple subtraction if she is struggling (it is hard!) Spending small amounts of money in shops is good for this the concept of money is also hard.
A really good website with games for year 1 objectives is here
Hope this helps.

RustyBear · 30/01/2009 22:53

I would say she's doing very well. I work in a junior school & lots of the year 3 come in only knowing 2x 5x & 10x

The guidelines Feenie quotes mentions subtraction in terms of objects, so I'd practice with actual things - you can use counters or chocolate buttons - rather than 'sums' on paper

imaginaryfriend · 30/01/2009 22:58

Thanks, that does help. Where did you get that list from - is it 'official'?

She seems to be getting harder things than that to do at school from what she's said.

What's a Venn or Carroll diagram? Or a simple block graph?

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Feenie · 30/01/2009 23:05

They are the level descriptors for 1a - like I said, where your 'average' year 1 child may be at the end of year 1.
Venn diagram here
Carroll diagrams here
Simple block graph..erm...graph depicting favourite flavours of icecream with 1 block = 1 child.

RustyBear · 30/01/2009 23:06

This page has the Government's Standards Site booklets for parents - the Year one booklets are at the bottom of the page - the 3 booklets are all slightly different in the activities they recommend.
If your DD is working at a higher level than this, you might like to look at the Year 2 booklets too.

imaginaryfriend · 30/01/2009 23:07

RB they do sums on paper at school. I saw something she brought home in her book bag, it says:

John goes to the supermarket to buy an apple. He pays 8p for it. At the shop around the corner he notices that he can buy 3 apples for 21p. Which shop has the cheapest apples, the supermarket or the shop around the corner?

Dd's answer to that and the other ones on the sheet was totally blank! She wrote in her 'diary' tonight 'I was a silly billy with my sums. I hated them.'

If I ask her a random take away sum like what's 5 take away 2 she generally tends to just guess at an answer.

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Feenie · 30/01/2009 23:12

Taking away is a very difficult concept in year 1, even for your clever dd! Rusty Bear is right, do lots of simple subtraction practically.

RustyBear · 30/01/2009 23:15

Yes, I just meant that if you want to do stuff at home with her you might both find it more enjoyable if you do a bit of reinforcing with objects.

That problem sounds pretty tough for Y1 - at first sight it looks like a division sum (21/3) but it would be easier to do it by 8p+8p+8p=24p, which is more than 21p. You could do it with play coins, or real ones if you have enough pennies.

imaginaryfriend · 30/01/2009 23:17

Thanks. I'll definitely try out some more fun ways of helping her with her maths.

Does that maths problem I typed out seem pretty difficult to you?

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Feenie · 30/01/2009 23:18

Yes! My Y2s last year would have struggled, and some of my Y5s this year would have to think twice, tbh.

imaginaryfriend · 30/01/2009 23:19

She was meant to have done it in the classroom actually but just brought home an empty sheet. Apparently she told the teacher that her pencil wasn't working!

I'm thinking of having a v. quick chat to the teacher and suggesting she assesses dd's maths to see if she's not being set work that's too high.

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Feenie · 30/01/2009 23:30

I wouldn't mention assessing her, but I would maybe suggest that your dd found this dificult.

Feenie · 30/01/2009 23:58

difficult

imaginaryfriend · 31/01/2009 00:05

Yes, assessing sounds too formal doesn't it? Dd is on the 'top' table because she's very strong with literacy but her maths ability is very different. The other people on her table are very able when it comes to numeracy and I wondered if perhaps she's struggling to keep up with them.

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Feenie · 31/01/2009 00:18

From what you've described about her Maths abilities, she doesn't sound as if she is struggling at all, far from it! Sounds like her 'next step' is plenty of practical experience to help her grasp subtraction - but I don't think you should worry at all.

imaginaryfriend · 31/01/2009 21:56

I mean she's struggling with the level of work they're given in her group. I wish the school had separate groups for literacy and numeracy but they don't seem to.

I've been running through some basic things with her today but if I say to her something like 'what's 10 take away 2' she'll just randomly answer the first thing that comes into her head like '13'!

I will have a small, casual chat with her teacher and ask if she can get a bit more help if she's to be set such advanced tasks for her age.

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Smithagain · 31/01/2009 22:42

The sum about the apples sounds hard to me. DD1 hasn't had anything that hard for homework, and she's in Year 2 and in the top group for maths!

imaginaryfriend · 31/01/2009 22:46

I think it's hard too for Y1. Dd says all her maths work at school is very hard and that she usually just guesses any old number and fills it in!

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mum4ever · 03/02/2009 19:25

That does sound hard for Y1.

My DD does her subtraction with pictures of actual things - they use pictures and cross them out as they subtract. eg. 10 apples and cross out as many as they are taking away. This is then reinforced with the words (10 take away 5) and also the sum (10 - 5)

You may have to start back at the beginning until she grasps the concept?

Hulababy · 03/02/2009 21:24

I work in a Y1 class as a TA, and also help at DD's school in Y1 and Y2. None of the classes have numeracy work such as the example you gave IF. Way too hard for Y1 IMO

catMandu · 03/02/2009 21:27

I have a yr1 and a yr2 dc and I don't think either of them could do the sum you mentioned. Way too hard for yr1. Also my dd in yr2 who I am told is bright is only just learning times tables, so your dd sounds amazing.

imaginaryfriend · 03/02/2009 22:23

Dd can't do times tables - she can count up to 100 in 10's, 5's and 2's but if I said to her 'what's 3 x 5?' she couldn't answer I don't think.

Yes, everyone seems to think that sum she was given in class is way too hard. the thing is that on her table there is a boy who's quite a maths genius and a further 2 girls who are very very strong with numbers. I think dd must be given the same work as them but she really can't manage it. I was going to speak to the teacher today but school's been closed. I may try tomorrow.

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Scarletibis · 06/02/2009 09:54

imaginary friend - can i just say that what your dd can do is v similar to what my Y1 dd is able to do - and her teacher says she is 'above average' in maths.

imaginaryfriend · 06/02/2009 10:14

That's good to know scarlet, thanks!

Dd can count in 2's to 20, in 5's and 10's to 100. She can add quite quickly numbers up to 10 and can say the number before and after a given number. She can do doubles up to double 5.

Subtraction she finds really difficult and anything involving numbers between 10-20 she struggles with as well.

Her friend in the other class seems to know lots more, can say what double 8 or 9 is instantly.

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vickyconfused · 06/02/2009 19:03

www.coxhoe.durham.sch.uk/Curriculum/Numeracy.htm

Have a look here It will give you lots of games etc too

Tbh she sounds about right for this age