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Are thye allowed to not let my son eat some of his packed lunch?

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jellyjelly · 11/09/2008 18:50

My son was told today at lunch that he was unable to eat his chocolate custard and two jaffa cakes. Its the first time but i think its a bit wrong.

Advice please and not about giving him things.

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mrspnut · 11/09/2008 20:03

Maybe he wasn't allowed to eat it because he'd taken too long over his lunch and they had to clear the room.

I'd try having a word with the headteacher first and asking her what happened before I kicked up a huge fuss.

I disagree with being told what to do and when to do it by anyone but unless you know all the facts you're likely to get a few instead of getting them round to doing what you want.

SammyK · 11/09/2008 20:03

How can they serve sponge and custard, but insist pack ups have low fat yoghurts?!?

IMO schools should concentrate more on excerice and physical activities, rather than lettuce for lunch followed by a round of SATS.

thisisyesterday · 11/09/2008 20:06

Tutter I agree. ds1 will start school next year and woe betide any do-gooders who tell me what he can and can't eat

mrz · 11/09/2008 20:09

The government want all schools to join the Healthy School programme so it will get worse. Personally I think a little treat now and then does no one any harm.

elastamum · 11/09/2008 20:09

At my sons school the reception and year one kids arent allowed to use the salad bar as the school think they dont get enough calories from it to get them through the day. They all get a hot meal and pudding!

ChukkyPig · 11/09/2008 20:09

Hear hear SammyK

robinpud · 11/09/2008 20:10

Has it occurred to anyone that it might simply have been that the child ran out of time?
If the 5 year old did indeed have

"nice ham on a brown bread, orange juice. Fruit bar, rice cakes, raisins and then the jaffa cake cucumber/sweetcorn/other veg so on average 3 portions of fruit and juice "

then perhaps he might have spent the majority of his lunch time sitting eting it rather than getting a bit of fresh air, going to the loo and being back in the classroom in time for afternoon session.
It is not unusual for the youngest children to spend a long time eating, watching and talking when they first start school, so it is perhaps possible that rather than it being a wilful violation of his human rights by some verocious mid day supervisor, he simply ran out of time?

Piffle · 11/09/2008 20:10

fucking lunacy
I'd be livid
I am lentil weaving healthy feeding parent BUT schools know nothing about The Big Picture re food
They should consult the parent NOT the child if they are not happy with lunchbox contents.
Dd is in yr1 and school never inspect lunchboxes EVER
Infact they even sell icecreams on Fridays after school even to the two obese kids.
Ie: let the parents control it.
Schools control school dinners
The people who take packed lunches are not happy with dinners for one reason or another.
Grr

CrushWithEyeliner · 11/09/2008 20:11

I am horrified at this. Jaffa cakes and choco Custard? FFS what is so awful about these after a balanced meal.

I would be having some very polite but strong words

mrz · 11/09/2008 20:13

There is some evidence that the whole healthy eating thing is leading to malnutrition in some very young children as they have different requirements to older children.

LazyLinePainterJane · 11/09/2008 20:18

Ds's school has rules on snacks (they provide fruit and milk/water at nursery reception level) but say that it is your lunchbox, put what you like in it. Obviously if a child was coming in with 3 mars bars and coke every day they would do something, but they seem to reach a nice level of not being bothered if a child has a packet of mini cheddars in amongst the rest of their normal lunch.

Am VERY fucked off about any sort of policy involving low-fat yoghurts. Just like all this bullshit about cheese and full fat milk. These are the healthy foods FFS!

ChukkyPig · 11/09/2008 20:20

LazyLine is there a problem with cheese? [concerned]

queenbea · 11/09/2008 20:24

it is good practice to provide low fat cheese

SoupDragon · 11/09/2008 20:28

He was hardly going to starve given the other stuff he'd already eaten.

wheresthehamster · 11/09/2008 20:29

I love the pitchfork mob that is MN!!

How do we KNOW that was what was meant?? It sounds like he ran out of time to me.

  1. Listen to child
  2. Get facts/confirmation from school
  3. THEN be 'livid' 'angry' 'fuming' 'horrified' etc. if you must

Remember 2) is VERY important.....

thisisyesterday · 11/09/2008 20:31

but there's nothing like a good rant!

Tutter · 11/09/2008 20:32

oi

am angry not at this particular "incident"

am angry that there should be such a policy in the first place

low fat yoghurts indeed

i will be livid about that

if you don't mind

ChukkyPig · 11/09/2008 20:34

Thanks queenbea. Also interested to see that butter is also "bad" and should only be allowed on jacket spuds, in small quantities only.

FFS.

wheresthehamster wheresthefun in that?

barmymamma · 11/09/2008 20:35

wow i'm shocked. i would go mad if i was undermined in such a fashion. by all means take me aside or ring me later at home to talk about it, but dont take it away. mind you i wouldnt feed anyone the crap that ltlle one had{MRS]
my ds has just started school, only 4yr. so they advise what to bring, not to bring. but dont think they would take it away.[he can still have crisps though]I would call them hipocrits anyway as teacher practically begged me to take in sweets/choc my ds could eat {he has multiple allergies]so she could give him treats like everyone else.she assured me that they wouldnt be given out very often, but still. i never got choc at school unless it was xmas or easter!!!!
oh and about the fat issue..... healthy children need a natural source of fat in there diet for good developement, physical and mental. the brain depends on it. so i think insisting on low fat varieties is awful.do we want to go to the other extream and have our children neurotic about weight and food, resulting in serious disorders???
A GOOD HEALTHY BALANCE OF SENCE AND DIET IS WHAT WE NEED!!!

Piffle · 11/09/2008 20:35

dd has full fat yoghurt sometimes even gasp petit filou as they are little enough for her.
A jammie dodger.
Fruit or cucumber
Marmite cheese sarny or peanut butter
Organix muesli bar
Diluted juice

So quite balanced imo
But other kids eat shit I know as dd asksfor things I've never entertained
But it's not MY business or schools
It's between parents and schools if a child appears unhealthy if diet points to being culprit.
To confront or confiscate kids food is awful.
At ds1s grammar he is yr10
The boys buy multi boxes of donuts and such shite and auction them off to desperate school chums who cannot access junk at school.
They find a way indeed

MaloryDontDiveItsShallow · 11/09/2008 20:37

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barmymamma · 11/09/2008 20:41

wow i'm shocked. i would go mad if i was undermined in such a fashion. by all means take me aside or ring me later at home to talk about it, but dont take it away. mind you i wouldnt feed anyone the crap that ltlle one had{MRS]
my ds has just started school, only 4yr. so they advise what to bring, not to bring. but dont think they would take it away.[he can still have crisps though]I would call them hipocrits anyway as teacher practically begged me to take in sweets/choc my ds could eat {he has multiple allergies]so she could give him treats like everyone else.she assured me that they wouldnt be given out very often, but still. i never got choc at school unless it was xmas or easter!!!!
oh and about the fat issue..... healthy children need a natural source of fat in there diet for good developement, physical and mental. the brain depends on it. so i think insisting on low fat varieties is awful.do we want to go to the other extream and have our children neurotic about weight and food, resulting in serious disorders???
A GOOD HEALTHY BALANCE OF SENCE AND DIET IS WHAT WE NEED!!!

ChukkyPig · 11/09/2008 20:42

So what we need is a jamie oliver style campaign to raise the levels of physical activity in schools.

For most children that's the problem, rather than the diet.

Who can front that? With the recent olympic success there must be a way in there somewhere...

MaloryDontDiveItsShallow · 11/09/2008 20:42

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