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My daughter against her own race

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LondonerWith2 · 02/11/2024 20:36

I need advice.
My daughter is a 6 year old white female. I'm white British and her dad is white British with part Korean.
My daughter has just had black history month at school and has also been learning about the religion of Islam in class.
LET ME MAKE CLEAR I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO HER LEARNING ABOUT OTHER RACES AND RELIGIONS
However, I'm becoming concerned, as are several relatives, at the way she views herself. She's recently made comments to myself and family about the fact she doesn't want to be white, wishes she wasn't Christian, wants to be Muslim etc.
She's also asked for hairstyles that her friends who aren't white have, I can AND DO do them on her, however explain that due to different hair textures it will look A little different on hers.

She's made lots of comments about being unhappy about being white and being Christian which is bothering me. I don't know what to do, family members have said to speak to the school and tell them the things She's been saying so that they can encourage her to love herself in her skin and her own culture but I don't want to make it seem as though I'm unhappy her learning about others.
Advice?

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Namechange61 · 04/11/2024 20:14

You should teach her the song many of us sang as children:
‘Jesus loves the little children
All the children of the world
Red and yellow, black and white
They are precious in his sight
Jesus loves the little children of the world’

Being a Christian is not the preserve of any race and you can teach her to value who she is and others too because everyone is special in their own way.

Livingonbananabread · 04/11/2024 20:22

I think I’d probably explain to her that the reason Black History Month is important is because black stories and achievements previously weren’t celebrated enough, and schools are trying to rebalance that, but it doesn’t mean white people have never done anything worthwhile.

I know a pp brought up the comparison with International Women’s Day as a joke, but actually when DS was in Yr 1 I remember going to his assemblies and realising that every single person from history they were taught about was a woman. It was brilliant as a counterbalance to years of the opposite being true, but for six year old boys who had missed that context due to only just arriving on the planet, it did strike me as quite weird, and I did explain to him that for a long time we were only taught about what men did and that was why women’s stories were now so focused on.

TaraRhu · 06/11/2024 07:51

My son doesn't express as strong views. however , we also live in London. His friends are from a huge cross section of ethnic groups and nationalities. He is constantly disappointed that we only speak one language at home. He also has. A hard time believing it if he meets someone that is just 'from London' he will ask 'but where else?' (Need to work on the way he says it before he starts to sound racist). Our family late Scottish so he makes a big deal about that being his identity but also recently he's been saying he is Irish too as he has an bit of Irish in him from my great grandmother. He's just desperate to fit in with his friends whose parents are more exciting than us !

Let her explode it - especially her Korean side.

Jk987 · 06/11/2024 08:38

She does not have to be a Christian! That is her choice not her parents.

BarberBealShaw · 06/11/2024 09:35

Is she being bullied?

MaidOfAle · 06/11/2024 11:44

Useruser1 · 03/11/2024 10:39

If I moved to a majority black country I'd "be the exception" and would expect that!

If you were born white in a majority-Black country because of decisions made by others (your parents, your grandparents, the white slavers who kidnapped your ancestors), it wouldn't have been your choice to accept the consequences of, so you might think of it rather differently.

Useruser1 · 15/11/2024 13:00

You mean if my white mother was taken by barbury pirates and settled to have me in the middle east or northern africa?
Then I'd want to get back to my ancestral homeland

Lifeglowup · 15/11/2024 13:03

LondonerWith2 · 02/11/2024 22:41

Thanks I appreciate that. Christianity isn't so much a massive thing for me, though we are church of England. But it's more the not wanting to be her that's bothering me
Thanks for the advice! X

Sounds like she just wants to be some thing rather than just not be herself. You say your church of England, do you attend regularly or go to messy church or similar?

Uricon2 · 15/11/2024 13:22

Very, very diverse area in the 1970s, O level history was Conquest to death of Elizabeth I. Prior to that had been the usual Romans, Anglo Saxons etc. Some of my black classmates pointed out that this was all incredibly white and our (excellent) teacher fully agreed, but it was the syllabus. I doubt there were even any resources for teaching black history then.

This is one month of the year that attempts to go some small way to rectify these deficits. I really doubt that your daughter is "against her own race", she is 6 and wants to feel included. Talk to her about how society contains many types of people and it's important to learn about them and that she'll also spend (a lot) of time learning about white people, but it is all important.

@Useruser1 I very much doubt that several hundred years down the line, when the descendants of your "white mother kidnapped by Barbary pirates" were finally freed, you'd be able or even inclined to return to gt gt gt gt gt grandma's home country, that is if you even knew where it was.

MaidOfAle · 15/11/2024 22:46

Useruser1 · 15/11/2024 13:00

You mean if my white mother was taken by barbury pirates and settled to have me in the middle east or northern africa?
Then I'd want to get back to my ancestral homeland

  1. The nature of chattel slavery and the transport of humans over long distances, which we now call "trafficking", means that many Black people can't know which part of Africa their ancestors are from because there are no records documenting this.
  2. You wouldn't have the right to move to your ancestral homeland. You'd have to apply for a visa and you might be refused.
silentwallflower · 16/11/2024 23:31

Being white is never glamorised or portrayed as being a good thing (in today's society)

I was reading this post with a straight face, up to that line. It never fails to amaze me when I hear people say things like this, like all the usual tirade online when Christmas ads have black people in them, like this is a sign of being anti white!! FFS

if you go to children's shows it's very diverse which is AMAZING
But not overwhelmingly white at all

Is it? Shows like Peppa Pig, Bluey or Bing with anthropomorphic animals are all voiced by voices and have cultures that seem very christian and white to me- Peppa (white , middle class , English) Bluey ( white, Australian , middle classed) Bing ( white , middle classed).
Then there's the Disney machine, my daughter loves Frozen (white blonde) , Tangled (white blonde) and Sleeping Beauty ( white blonde) and outside of Disney Barbie (white blonde).

If its impacting you so much, move out, lots of places where the vast majority will be white, I live in a diverse neighbourhood , but white British are still the biggest group ..British white native culture is celebrated.

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