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dd a great reader but not so hot with spelling. Age 5.

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souvenir · 09/04/2008 00:10

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WigWamBam · 09/04/2008 00:20

No, not necessarily. And not something to worry about yet either.

Spellings are odd ... phonetically, "was" sounds as if it should be spelled "wos". They have to be learned, and it takes a while.

Don't fret. Just let her enjoy her reading; the rest will come. They will start giving her spelling tests soon enough.

Clary · 09/04/2008 00:41

souvenir if she is in FS2 then it is totally fine that she is writing wos for was, etc etc.

TBH even if in yr 1. 5 is still very young, well done her on her reading, that's great, but yes, the connection between that and spelling can take a while.

DS2 for example can read "football" (a very important word) but generally spells it "futboll". That's fine, it's phonetic spelling and his teacher is very pleased. He's just 5 btw. we have spellings to learn in yr 1 but schools vary.

roisin · 09/04/2008 02:30

At every stage you can expect her reading to be well in advance of her spelling/writing. Hell, mine is still now

Encourage her to read, read, and read some more; and make it fun. Do not stress at all about writing/spelling until the end of yr1 at the earliest. DS1 (10) is fantastic reader/writer/speller, and school/we didn't even raise 'spelling' as an issue until he started in yr2.

gagarin · 09/04/2008 07:18

Spelling is optional at this age!

What the school should be doing is trying to promote confident writers who enjoy putting their thoughts down on paper. To keep stopping a child to point out they have done something wrong is counterproductive.

Once she is a fluent writer spellings will be incorporated into the teacher's feedback and hopefully become embedded in her writing.

Don't worry - and try not to point out to her that she's done something wrong if you do see a mistake - she's young yet.

DontCallMeBaby · 09/04/2008 08:01

Not an expert - but the way I see it, you can guess a lot with reading, but writing needs (eventually!) to be spot on. From an adult point of view, how are your foreign languages? I can read French far better than I can write it, for instance (and far better than I can speak it!)

DD hasn't started school yet, but I did some research into children's spelling years ago, looking at 8/9 year olds, and their spelling was fabulously eccentric, so I wouldn't worry much about a 5yo.

SmugColditz · 09/04/2008 08:03

I am still treasuring a HapE Estr card I got from my nearly 5 year old.

clayre · 09/04/2008 08:07

my dd is 5 and cant read and can only write her name, she's too young and still at nursery

OverMyDeadBody · 09/04/2008 08:10

Don't worry about it, spelling isn't important at this age, and does not have to in any way match a child's reading abilities, they are quite different skills and spelling (especially English!) takes a while. If she is writing phonetically and you and her teacher can work out what she's written that is the important thing.

Spelling will come, there is no rush to get her to get it right now!

I am looking at a story my DS wrote, it says 'my favrat toy is stickll brix I am 4 and a hurf'. He's 5.

I love seeing children's phonetic spelling!

uttertripe · 09/04/2008 08:26

5?

5?

seriously.... FIVE???

i think you can relax if shes reading well but not spelling too well. shes FIVE fgs, what are you expecting??

my in-reception 4yo doesnt seem to read anything at home at all... i am not worried. he will come to it when he comes to it. his teacher is not worried, and so neither am i.

i think you should chill. five is awfully young to worry about academic prowess imo.

OverMyDeadBody · 09/04/2008 08:33

I agree with uttertripe too.

uttertripe · 09/04/2008 08:40

lol, thats a sentence you never thought youd type, eh?

constancereader · 09/04/2008 08:53

She sounds like she is doing really well.
I am a teacher btw.
We were doing a building topic once and a child in my class wrote smnt - cement! I though that was brilliant.

mrz · 09/04/2008 10:00

Writing is a much later skill than reading so as everyone has said really nothing to worry about. ORT books aren't the best to encourage spelling skills as they rely alot on "look and say" rather than using phonics.
Try ~
Learning how to ?sound-talk?

The teacher shows children how to do this ? c-a-t = cat. The sounds (phonemes) are spoken aloud, in order, all through the word. This is called blending ? it is a vital skill for reading.

They will also learn to do it the other way around ? cat = c-a-t. The whole word is spoken aloud, and then broken up into its sounds (phonemes) in order, all through the word. This is called segmenting ? it is a vital skill for spelling

Making little words together
Make little words together, e.g. it, up, am, and, top, dig, run, met, pick.
As you select the letters, say them aloud: ?a-m ? am?, ?m-e-t ? met?. This is blending which is vital for reading.

Breaking words up
Now do it the other way around ? read the word, break the word up and move the letters away, saying ? met ? m-e-t. This is segmenting which is vital for spelling.

Don?t forget the writing box!
Spelling is harder than reading words ? praise, don?t criticise. Little white boards and pens, and magic boards are fun to try out spellings and practising their handwriting

souvenir · 09/04/2008 18:43

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LilyMunster · 09/04/2008 18:46

i would say not. give her space to learn and to cultivate enjoyment of reading and writing. once she starts to really enjoy it, youre on to a winner. without it, she will always struggle with school.

claricebeansmum · 09/04/2008 18:58

In reply to OP - just watch this and see how it develops. It might just be a development thing that will sort itself

DD at in Yr 2 was off the reading schemes and onto Roald Dahls and other books her brother was reading (he is 2 academic years ahead) but had trouble spelling her name. Phonetically her spelling was not brilliant and it was quite shambolic - her understanding, comprehension and vocabulary use were well beyond her calendar age - had her assessed and she is dyslexic - she can decode but can't encode.

My advice would be to watch this for the next couple of years, don't make it an "issue" but if by about 7 you still have a massive disparity between reading and spelling ability it might be worth getting her assessed.

mrz · 09/04/2008 19:07

"So if dd writes coat as cot should I not correct her for the time being?"

Ask her what it says she may realise and if she does ask if she knows how to write the oa sound.

edam · 09/04/2008 19:10

agree with everyone else that this is entirely normal. English spelling is very tricky.

Interesting to hear that ORT is 'look and say'. I'd suspected as much. So why are ds's school using ORT while doing phonics?

Enid · 09/04/2008 19:13

souvenir

dd2 is the same, great reader, not good speller - I treasure it tbh as I know she will catch up and I will miss these cute misspellings - having had dd1 who is truly a terrible speller and reader I can see that at least dd2 has a STAB at the phonetic sound of the words

WedgiesMum · 09/04/2008 19:19

You honestly have nothing to worry about at all. 5 is far too young to be worried about spelling. I think that we worry about spelling because we look at it from an adult perspective. We read a new word a couple of times and incorporate it into our internal word bank with it's correct spelling fairly easily because we have years of practice at strategies for doing this. At 5 she has no experience of the connection between reading and spelling so gets more creative and 'phonetic' about spelling.

My DD was a fab reader in reception but couldn't spell to save her life even in y1 it was mad! Now in y2 she gets 10/10 every week for her spellings, that extra year at school and the work they do in y2 on spellings really makes an improvement on their spelling ability.

mrz · 09/04/2008 19:37

edam I suspect they are still using ORT because it costs thousands to replace a reading scheme.

souvenir · 09/04/2008 22:54

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Enid · 10/04/2008 13:05

They use jelly and bean at dds school - brilliant - the best set of reading books IMIO

ahundredtimes · 10/04/2008 13:13

Do they keep them in the cupboard with the chocolate Enid?

She isn't dyslexic because she can't spell at 5! I don't think they go together - reading is easier, though it seems logical that they should be able to reproduce a word they can read. But it doesn't seem to work like that.

My dd is 6 - she wrote this the other day 'I nose a lot abowt fings.'

Enid · 10/04/2008 13:16

lolol

the reading teaching in recep/year 1 is great

its after that that it becomes terrible

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