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Horrible cover teacher

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HHN · 22/02/2024 16:30

So there’s a teacher in my children’s school she covers reception - year 4 one day a week. My son is in year 2 never had any issues with her he’s pretty laid back and nothing phases him. My daughter is in year 1 last year in reception she would have this teacher every Tuesday & every Tuesday she would get upset we spoke to her teacher a few times but nothing seemed to happen. She’s never got wrong off the teacher just the teacher shouts at people really loud when they’re naughty and even though she’s never shouted at my DD she scares her still. Beginning of year 1 her day with that teacher changed to a Wednesday & so every Wednesday she was getting upset we didn’t bother the teacher this time we went straight to the head teacher had a meeting and explained it all to her. She was lovely and ever since that nasty teacher has been nothing but overly nice to my DD she still shouts but I think she makes more of a friendly effort with my DD so she isn’t so scared anymore. Anyway after speaking to a few people in the school yard my DD isn’t the only one who this teacher scares her class on has 18 pupils and 6 of them I know have also had to complain about this teacher. Why is she allowed to get away with screaming, shouting and scaring 4 & 5 year olds.
What else could we do about this situation?

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NotStylishOrBeautiful · 22/02/2024 20:33

You’ve called this teacher ‘horrible’, ‘nasty’, ‘a bully’ (several times) and ‘incapable’. Yet you’ve also said that since raising your issue with the head, she has been ‘lovely’ to your child. Can you see how inappropriate it is to speak about someone in this way?

Sherrystrull · 22/02/2024 20:41

SLT would never allow a parent who had complained about a specific teacher to volunteer in their class as it would be clear they were only there to observe and then complain.

I wholeheartedly agree with this policy. I have an open door to my classroom and welcome parent volunteers and students as much as possible. Any extra help for the children is welcomed.

However, the job is stressful enough and I only want positive energy in my classroom, not someone looking for any opportunity to complain.

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HHN · 22/02/2024 20:42

arthumcph · 22/02/2024 20:23

I'm sure you do care about their happiness, as any parent would.
However, to be blunt kids are often full of shit and I'd suggest trying to ruin someone's career based on the highly reliable testimony of a five year is probably not that wise. I say that both as a parent and a (now ex) teacher.
What concerns me about your post is that the issue has been resolved as far as you are concerned, leave it to other parents IF there actually is a genuine issue for them. Teachers are watched every five minutes so I'm sure the school would be aware.

The school are most definitely aware you can tell by the teachers faces when you mention any issues regarding her it was the same when I spoke to the head I could tell it was no surprise. I’m not concerned about others children they can deal with that as they see fit. It’s my child I’m concerned about and was wondering if/when an issue next occurs what would be the best way to deal with it. Since I’ve already tried speaking to both the teacher and the head. So I’m not trying to ruin anyone’s career but also not sending my child somewhere she’s not happy

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HHN · 22/02/2024 20:43

NotStylishOrBeautiful · 22/02/2024 20:33

You’ve called this teacher ‘horrible’, ‘nasty’, ‘a bully’ (several times) and ‘incapable’. Yet you’ve also said that since raising your issue with the head, she has been ‘lovely’ to your child. Can you see how inappropriate it is to speak about someone in this way?

Can you not see how inappropriate it is to scare a child so much so doesn’t want to go to school it wasn’t a one off it went on for the whole of her time in reception and the start of year one.

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HHN · 22/02/2024 20:45

twistyizzy · 22/02/2024 20:21

Lol wait until she starts secondary school 🤣.
Good luck because if you get this worked up about this you will be having a breakdown by the end of Yr 6 let alone Yr 11.
FYI most kids lie/embellish for effect even your precious child.

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Didn’t realise you knew my child 😂😂

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ilovesooty · 22/02/2024 20:46

Go and find another school then if you're not happy with that one.

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HHN · 22/02/2024 20:48

MetalFences · 22/02/2024 20:27

So maybe you might have just jumped to conclusions

I'm just working off the information that you have provided.

I've been a primary school teacher for thirty years and it's unusual for schools not to encourage parents to be involved. Why do they not want parents in the classrooms?

It's a 'lovely school' but you have said that you are afraid to go!

And your year one child doesn't like it - according to you.

And your son has seen a member of staff shouting in the faces of younger children but that hasn't really impacted how he feels about school or this teacher.

Ive Not said I’m afraid to go. The only issue is with this one teacher. I’ve also not got any problem with how involved parents we are kept up to date and involved regularly not that it has anything to do with this post. Again the only problem is this one teacher

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twistyizzy · 22/02/2024 20:50

@HHN OP seriously move schools.
There is a major staffing crisis in schools, they need to keep all the staff they can get hence supply/training teachers are often the only option. So they aren't going to take any further action if that teacher is meeting their requirements.
You obviously aren't happy and are never going to be happy so move schools. Trust me though that will impact your DD much more than 1 supply teacher.

Wolfiefan · 22/02/2024 21:10

So what has this teacher specifically done to your child? Maybe the reaction from staff was because you were the one complaining. About nothing in particular.

Bluevelvetsofa · 22/02/2024 21:18

Your child had a problem. You spoke to the school about it, it was resolved and your child is fine. You’re not worried about other children and your child is no longer upset, so there’s no need for you to do anything.

It sounds as though, otherwise, you like the school, so pursuing this smacks of a vendetta and will not endear you to the school.

Leave it alone. If the head has a problem with the teacher she will deal with it. As long as your child is happy, there’s no need for you to worry. No need either, to anticipate things going wrong. If they do, move schools.

Everyone on this thread has said the same thing. You can, of course, ignore the consensus and carry on until you become ‘that parent’ or make someone’s life so miserable that they leave. You choose.

Bicyclecycle · 22/02/2024 21:21

HHN · 22/02/2024 16:48

I couple of weeks after I spoke to the head teacher I over heard another mam out of my DD’s class speaking about the same teacher to someone else. A bunch of 5 year olds aren’t going to all make up this lie about a teacher and all say the same thing unless it’s true.

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A bit naive to think that five year olds don’t make things up.

MigGirl · 22/02/2024 21:27

HHN · 22/02/2024 16:48

I couple of weeks after I spoke to the head teacher I over heard another mam out of my DD’s class speaking about the same teacher to someone else. A bunch of 5 year olds aren’t going to all make up this lie about a teacher and all say the same thing unless it’s true.

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Op it's not that they are lying it's more that some young children are more sensitive. There was one teacher in my kids primary that some kids would complain that she shouted at the class. She was just very sturn and had a loud teacher voice if the children didn't behave. She never actually shouted and I knew because I worked there.

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HHN · 22/02/2024 21:29

Bicyclecycle · 22/02/2024 21:21

A bit naive to think that five year olds don’t make things up.

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Spirallingdownwards · 23/02/2024 05:43

HHN · 22/02/2024 18:07

I don’t listen to gossip in the playground I only drop off once a week so aren’t close enough to any of the parents to gossip

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Seriously you keep contradicting yourself. Upthread you say it isn't just from your kids but other parents.

I think you expected everyone to join your witch hunt and are put out that people haven't.

Spirallingdownwards · 23/02/2024 05:47

HHN · 22/02/2024 20:42

The school are most definitely aware you can tell by the teachers faces when you mention any issues regarding her it was the same when I spoke to the head I could tell it was no surprise. I’m not concerned about others children they can deal with that as they see fit. It’s my child I’m concerned about and was wondering if/when an issue next occurs what would be the best way to deal with it. Since I’ve already tried speaking to both the teacher and the head. So I’m not trying to ruin anyone’s career but also not sending my child somewhere she’s not happy

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Again contradicting yourself. You say you spoke to the teacher and the head.

Here you mention speaking to other teachers reactions when you mention issues about her. So you are mentioning it to other teachers now too. Perhaps the reaction is not to do with the teacher bit with how you are inappropriately discussing another teacher with them?

QuillBill · 23/02/2024 07:13

The school are most definitely aware you can tell by the teachers faces when you mention any issues regarding her it was the same when I spoke to the head I could tell it was no surprise

If you are talking with many different members of staff like this, 'mentioning issues' about one of their colleagues, then I imagine the teachers do make a certain face.

mammabing · 23/02/2024 08:34

Can I ask OP what you want the school to do? It sounds like your issue was resolved so what is the next step in your opinion?

m00rfarm · 23/02/2024 08:38

You alredy said your son was fine with her. Perhaps your daughter is not very robust.

Shinyandnew1 · 23/02/2024 08:53

It’s my child I’m concerned about and was wondering if/when an issue next occurs what would be the best way to deal with it. Since I’ve already tried speaking to both the teacher and the head.

You have spoken to the head and the problem is resolved. Why are you talking as if you’ve spoken to them and it hasn’t been?

crumblingschools · 23/02/2024 09:01

No school asks parents/volunteers to come in and observe the teacher. As a school governor it was made very clear to me that observing/judging the teacher was not part of my role.

Volunteers who simply want to get into school to see what their child’s teacher is like, or where all other children in the class are in the reading scheme, give other volunteers a bad name. That’s why many school don’t let volunteers be in their child’s class.

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HHN · 23/02/2024 12:52

Spirallingdownwards · 23/02/2024 05:47

Again contradicting yourself. You say you spoke to the teacher and the head.

Here you mention speaking to other teachers reactions when you mention issues about her. So you are mentioning it to other teachers now too. Perhaps the reaction is not to do with the teacher bit with how you are inappropriately discussing another teacher with them?

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If you read the op I did say I spoke to the teacher in reception. Scroll on if your not going to read properly

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Spirallingdownwards · 23/02/2024 19:38

HHN · 23/02/2024 12:52

If you read the op I did say I spoke to the teacher in reception. Scroll on if your not going to read properly

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I have read it properly . You not only have contradicted yourself but now appear to have forgotten what you have typed. Perhaps click on see all for your own posts and read then one after the other to see what you have said and the contradictions.

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HHN · 23/02/2024 21:23

Spirallingdownwards · 23/02/2024 19:38

I have read it properly . You not only have contradicted yourself but now appear to have forgotten what you have typed. Perhaps click on see all for your own posts and read then one after the other to see what you have said and the contradictions.

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skelter83 · 23/02/2024 21:31

I’m a teacher. Teachers aren’t 100% wonderful human beings. I have had some days where I’ve sat down and thought “urgh, I was quite grouchy today” (usually because I’ve had ridiculous tasks to complete), however I know my class would never ever think of me as a grouchy, shouty teacher. This is gaslighting the kids. She sounds like she is shouty and is scaring kids consistently and someone needs to know at the school so they can stop booking her. At the very least, it means SLT can have a look/listen in to check everything is ok.

Maarlia · 24/02/2024 16:37

No parents can not observe teachers….what would you be observing?

You seem determined to complain. There will be a complaints policy on the school website, follow it.
This will need to be evidence based and only regarding your own children.
The policy is written and ratified by the board/trustees to provide the complainant and the school with fair process.

This is a typical policy.

https://pcs.hants.sch.uk/assets/statutory/complaints_procedure.pdf

https://pcs.hants.sch.uk/assets/statutory/complaints_procedure.pdf