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Horrible cover teacher

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HHN · 22/02/2024 16:30

So there’s a teacher in my children’s school she covers reception - year 4 one day a week. My son is in year 2 never had any issues with her he’s pretty laid back and nothing phases him. My daughter is in year 1 last year in reception she would have this teacher every Tuesday & every Tuesday she would get upset we spoke to her teacher a few times but nothing seemed to happen. She’s never got wrong off the teacher just the teacher shouts at people really loud when they’re naughty and even though she’s never shouted at my DD she scares her still. Beginning of year 1 her day with that teacher changed to a Wednesday & so every Wednesday she was getting upset we didn’t bother the teacher this time we went straight to the head teacher had a meeting and explained it all to her. She was lovely and ever since that nasty teacher has been nothing but overly nice to my DD she still shouts but I think she makes more of a friendly effort with my DD so she isn’t so scared anymore. Anyway after speaking to a few people in the school yard my DD isn’t the only one who this teacher scares her class on has 18 pupils and 6 of them I know have also had to complain about this teacher. Why is she allowed to get away with screaming, shouting and scaring 4 & 5 year olds.
What else could we do about this situation?

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ilovesooty · 22/02/2024 18:34

Riapia · 22/02/2024 18:27

OP, it’s time to stop pussyfooting about.
You have every right to find out where the teacher lives and go round and piss on her geraniums.

😂

Wolfiefan · 22/02/2024 18:37

Screaming and shouting in their faces?
Or raising her voice to get attention and keep order?

You don’t know. You’re going off gossip and hearsay. You also say your child has no issue now. So leave it. In future you get an accurate account of what was said to your child. But you can’t stop a teacher ever raising their voice in class.

HHN · 22/02/2024 18:37

fedupandstuck · 22/02/2024 18:03

You can't go in and just observe. You can go in to be a classroom helper - most schools will have parent helpers doing additional reading with children. Or other activities that the school needs help with.

You are making a serious allegation against this teacher - that she is bullying her whole class. Your evidence for this is what your two children have told you, and that you don't like her manner at the end of the day when she's dismissing the children. Report this to the Head and be clear that you think she is bullying all 18 children in the class. I'd mention that you've overheard other parents talking about this too. Put it all in writing.

Our school don’t do this the only time they ask for volunteers are for school trips

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HHN · 22/02/2024 18:38

Wolfiefan · 22/02/2024 18:37

Screaming and shouting in their faces?
Or raising her voice to get attention and keep order?

You don’t know. You’re going off gossip and hearsay. You also say your child has no issue now. So leave it. In future you get an accurate account of what was said to your child. But you can’t stop a teacher ever raising their voice in class.

I have left it. For now until the next time an issue with my child arises

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Wolfiefan · 22/02/2024 18:44

It might not do. Sounds like you’re looking for a reason to complain.

spicedlemonpie · 22/02/2024 18:57

I dont like schools never have and im not keen on teachers.,

However i have seen so much gentle parenting that when a child is told off at school they seem to think its abusive.
Its not always the teachers fault sometimes its the parents for not teaching their children that sometimes they are wrong you can not get away with everything and your not going to be petted up you do wrong you get told off.
Yes some teachers are awful but not all of them sometimes its the parents that believe that their child/children simply are rays of sunshine.

If it is the case of a bad teacher instead of making a thread about it go to the school and sort it.

lto2019 · 22/02/2024 19:16

You contradict yourself throughout. Originally your son had no problems with her but now he has told you she is a bully. The first post she shouts - that has transitioned to shouting in their faces. You don't listen to playground gossip but over heard someone gossiping and now believe the gossip. Your daughter is now fine but don't want to let it go. I assume because the teacher being ultra nice to your daughter wasn't the only outcome you wanted - you wanted her punished too.

Winnading · 22/02/2024 19:22

HHN · 22/02/2024 18:03

Just because a few people on mumsnet have said that you can go in and observe teachers believe it or not I’m not going to go running straight to the head and volunteer to keep a eye on one of his incapable teachers no. It is something to bare in mind if any more issues arise though

I didnt say observe, volunteer was the word used. Try volunteering to read to the children or similar.

weefella · 22/02/2024 19:22

My son has also confirmed without being asked that she shouts in all the girls faces and makes them cry.

In all the girls' faces? But you said yourself that she has never shouted at your daughter.

This is the problem with listening to gossip and hearsay.

lto2019 · 22/02/2024 19:24

" just the teacher shouts at people really loud when they’re naughty and even though she’s never shouted at my DD "
Originally it was shouts when they are naughty and now it shouts in ALL their faces.

HHN · 22/02/2024 19:28

Wolfiefan · 22/02/2024 18:44

It might not do. Sounds like you’re looking for a reason to complain.

Not looking more just waiting

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CaptainMyCaptain · 22/02/2024 19:34

HHN · 22/02/2024 18:00

Year I’ve never heard of being able to go in and observe

You can't go in to observe. You can volunteer to go in and help which is what has been suggested.

MetalFences · 22/02/2024 19:35

Our school don’t do this the only time they ask for volunteers are for school trips

Perhaps you have inadvertently sent your children to a shit school. No parental involvement and only eighteen children in a class.

PianPianPiano · 22/02/2024 19:36

HHN · 22/02/2024 18:30

No i definitely would not be complaining on others behalf. It just came as a bit of a shock that it’s not only my daughter that she treats this way this is obviously her 2nd year in school and I’ve never discussed this with any other parent it just so happened I overheard a conversation which the led to another conversation and it was this mam who told me about the other 5 complaints

Wait, what "way" is she treating your daughter? You said in your OP that she'd never shouted at your daughter, just that her shouting at other people scares her. So is she also actually shouting at your daughter? I thought you said she was now being extra nice to her?!

arthumcph · 22/02/2024 19:38

'Not looking more just waiting'

So you are waiting for a teacher to potentially do something you perceive as wrong so you can complain? So you hold a grudge based on playground gossip and something a 5 year old said?
Am so thankful when reading crap like this that I don't teach anymore. No wonder there are no decent teachers left. It amazes me how once you have a child you think you know how to be a teacher and manage classes of children. You don't.

CaptainMyCaptain · 22/02/2024 19:42

arthumcph · 22/02/2024 19:38

'Not looking more just waiting'

So you are waiting for a teacher to potentially do something you perceive as wrong so you can complain? So you hold a grudge based on playground gossip and something a 5 year old said?
Am so thankful when reading crap like this that I don't teach anymore. No wonder there are no decent teachers left. It amazes me how once you have a child you think you know how to be a teacher and manage classes of children. You don't.

This. I have been retired for nearly 10 years thank goodness.

Wolfiefan · 22/02/2024 19:58

Yep. Waiting means you expect to find something and so you are watching out for it.
Bloody hell OP. Teaching is a fucking hard job. If a teacher says something to your child that truly upsets them and has them in tears then you deal with that. But gossip and third hand rumours are no grounds for complaint. How about focus on building a positive relationship with the school and supporting your child in their learning, making and keeping friends, developing resilience and building confidence? Much better use of your time than a witch-hunt.

HHN · 22/02/2024 20:09

MetalFences · 22/02/2024 19:35

Our school don’t do this the only time they ask for volunteers are for school trips

Perhaps you have inadvertently sent your children to a shit school. No parental involvement and only eighteen children in a class.

It’s a lovely school just this one teacher is the issue. We do get invited to assemblies, trips, phonics mornings etc. We however don’t get invited in individually to ‘observe’. Like I said it’s a small class all other classes are much bigger it was just a low in take in my DD’s class. So maybe you might have just jumped to conclusions

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HHN · 22/02/2024 20:10

Wolfiefan · 22/02/2024 19:58

Yep. Waiting means you expect to find something and so you are watching out for it.
Bloody hell OP. Teaching is a fucking hard job. If a teacher says something to your child that truly upsets them and has them in tears then you deal with that. But gossip and third hand rumours are no grounds for complaint. How about focus on building a positive relationship with the school and supporting your child in their learning, making and keeping friends, developing resilience and building confidence? Much better use of your time than a witch-hunt.

No witch hunt just not having my child upset by someone who is meant to make her feel safe. School is supposed to be a safe place not somewhere your afraid to go on certain days.

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HHN · 22/02/2024 20:14

arthumcph · 22/02/2024 19:38

'Not looking more just waiting'

So you are waiting for a teacher to potentially do something you perceive as wrong so you can complain? So you hold a grudge based on playground gossip and something a 5 year old said?
Am so thankful when reading crap like this that I don't teach anymore. No wonder there are no decent teachers left. It amazes me how once you have a child you think you know how to be a teacher and manage classes of children. You don't.

Never once said I know how to be a teacher. My child’s happiness is all I care about so isn’t a place you should be afraid to go.

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twistyizzy · 22/02/2024 20:21

HHN · 22/02/2024 20:10

No witch hunt just not having my child upset by someone who is meant to make her feel safe. School is supposed to be a safe place not somewhere your afraid to go on certain days.

Lol wait until she starts secondary school 🤣.
Good luck because if you get this worked up about this you will be having a breakdown by the end of Yr 6 let alone Yr 11.
FYI most kids lie/embellish for effect even your precious child.

arthumcph · 22/02/2024 20:23

I'm sure you do care about their happiness, as any parent would.
However, to be blunt kids are often full of shit and I'd suggest trying to ruin someone's career based on the highly reliable testimony of a five year is probably not that wise. I say that both as a parent and a (now ex) teacher.
What concerns me about your post is that the issue has been resolved as far as you are concerned, leave it to other parents IF there actually is a genuine issue for them. Teachers are watched every five minutes so I'm sure the school would be aware.

bellocchild · 22/02/2024 20:24

A polite and discreet comment to school management will not go amiss. My son and others were having problems with a supply teacher who could become very short-tempered, so I mentioned it quietly, and the senior staff were glad of the information. They couldn't check on him all the time.

arthumcph · 22/02/2024 20:24

@twistyizzy
Yep, agree, I was also going to say this. DH is a secondary teacher.

MetalFences · 22/02/2024 20:27

So maybe you might have just jumped to conclusions

I'm just working off the information that you have provided.

I've been a primary school teacher for thirty years and it's unusual for schools not to encourage parents to be involved. Why do they not want parents in the classrooms?

It's a 'lovely school' but you have said that you are afraid to go!

And your year one child doesn't like it - according to you.

And your son has seen a member of staff shouting in the faces of younger children but that hasn't really impacted how he feels about school or this teacher.