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Y2 class being taught by HLTA

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notanotherclairebear · 18/11/2023 17:04

DS is in Y2 and his class teacher is on long-term sick leave. She has not taught a single day yet this year. For context, she was his teacher in YR and was absent for most of the year, and most of last year too, so I have no reason to believe that she will be returning any time soon.

DS has been taught by another teacher since September. We were told that this was a long-term plan, but last week we got a letter saying that she is reducing her hours and will be teaching 1 day a week, plus covering the new teacher's PPA one afternoon a week.

I have just found out from another parent that the person becoming the substantive teacher for DS is in fact a HLTA rather than a teacher. I feel unsettled and uncomfortable about this - particularly given that YR was very disrupted (and anecdotal conversation with other parents suggests that children in his YR class are behind the other class in reading and English).

WWYD? I'm assuming the school has no funding for a FT teacher, because they are paying sick leave on a long-term basis. It's a small school so likely doesn't have a teacher's salary to spare. Is it legal for a TA to be the class 'teacher' in a maintained school?

I'd like to make it clear that I'm sure the TA is lovely and wonderful at her job; but surely the reason teachers need to qualify is that their role is more skilled than that of a TA?

I'm increasingly frustrated that my child's education is being compromised for a second year. The school has opted out of the SATs for Y2 so there's no accountability there either... Short of moving him to another school, what can I do?!

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Fullofpudding · 19/11/2023 08:58

2 situations at my current school

  1. A current HLTA is actually a qualified teacher who took a step back.
  1. I am a HLTA who has been with the school over 10 years and has far more experience than many of the teachers around me!

HLTAs are worth their weight in gold!!

cansu · 19/11/2023 09:12

HLTAs are not generally teachers. There may be some but most are not and those who were previously teachers may have stopped teaching for a reason - possibly workload or other issues.

We have some great TAs but they would not know how to plan and deliver to a whole class. That takes time to learn unsurprisingly. They would also be being paid a very low salary for a huge amount of responsibility. It is also true that a good teacher will adapt someone else's planning to fit the needs of their class. Just doing what you are given rarely works well.

The poster who talked about their HLTA friend being better than the teacher in y1 needs to think about how professional the HLTA is being in her role.

RedToothBrush · 19/11/2023 09:47

There are two HLTA at DSs school. Both are qualified as teachers. They do teach occasionally. It gives the school flexibility whilst meaning they don't have to get in a stream of different supply teachers.

Because the teacher in your case is on sick leave (rather than maternity cover) there aren't set dates to their absence so it would be a succession of supply teachers.

If they are qualified as a teacher, it would make a lot more sense for the school to be taking this approach as long as the HLTA is happy.

jimjambob · 19/11/2023 09:56

Soontobe60 · 18/11/2023 17:29

Schools cannot opt out of KS1 and KS2 SATS.
I know some amazing HLTSs BTW. (And some pretty awful teachers)

Yes they can, they aren't mandatory in KS1 anymore.

howshouldibehave · 19/11/2023 09:57

Schools cannot opt out of KS1 and KS2 SATS.

KS1 SATs are now optional.

I wouldn’t be happy about this either, OP, but sadly it is happening everywhere. Some HLTAs are great, a handful are ex-teachers wanting to lose the stress, some are TAs with no additional qualifications and are just someone the head decides to make an HLTA because they want them to do cover.

I know very few people who want to stay in teaching, heads are really struggling to recruit anyone at all.

PaperDoIIs · 19/11/2023 10:02

It does seem massively unfair on the staff and children.

However, I'd reserve judgement for now. Consistency is important, having a string of supply teachers or even longer term agency teachers that might just not show up one day won't be good for the children either. So I'd say, wait and see how it goes, whether your child is making progress, how the learning and teaching is, are they happy ,are they settled etc. If there are any issues, then you can start making noise.

endlesscraziness · 19/11/2023 11:33

@cansu actually the teacher needs to be more professional in her role! Several parents have complained about the teacher (I've heard that for the parents, not the HLTA) and they've noticed a marked difference in behaviour when the HLTA has them for the day.

Being a qualified teacher, doesn't make you a good teacher. We had her when my daughter was in year 3 and she was saved by her trainee teacher who was far better and came across as more professional.

cansu · 19/11/2023 12:03

If there is an issue with the teacher, the head needs to deal with it. Gossip from the parents is not the way.

cansu · 19/11/2023 12:04

Also how would the parents know behaviour is better when the TA is there? Are they in the classroom??

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