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School appeal - urgent

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monyk12 · 04/07/2023 18:31

Dear parents,

This is a desperate post re schools and appeals; apologies if not allowed, I can delete if needed.

I have appealed for reception for my daughter and I am looking to find information, reasons, motivations on how to build a successful school appeal.
I am concerned that the offered schools is unsuitable for my daughter and the hearing is tomorrow.
Any information welcomed.
Many thanks in advance.

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EmmaGrundyForPM · 12/07/2023 17:13

XxmaryxX · 12/07/2023 17:11

Hi mums,

I am looking for a good nursery in Mitcham for my daughter that will start in September, was undecided between Cranmer primary school and Liberty primary school?

Could you kindly give me your feedback on nursery and primary

Thanks

You need to start your own thread on your local Board

XxmaryxX · 12/07/2023 17:18

Sorry I have noticed now, I made a mistake.
I have just signed to the website.
Thank you

Quiverer · 12/07/2023 17:21

OP, how did you achieve taking your child to 60% of the plays currently on in London whilst you both work 13 hour days?

SheilaFentiman · 12/07/2023 17:22

Quiverer · 12/07/2023 17:21

OP, how did you achieve taking your child to 60% of the plays currently on in London whilst you both work 13 hour days?

The DD is a prodigy and has built her own Tardis

cansu · 12/07/2023 17:30

I think your update is a load of lies. Unless a mistake was made calculating the distance there is no chance that you won that appeal.

PanelChair · 12/07/2023 17:36

I can believe that the OP won the appeal (even if it was an ICS appeal) if she could demonstrate that there’d been an error in measuring the distance which had cost her the place. I am struggling to believe that any appeal panel would ask such loaded, hostile questions to any parent.

Lougle · 12/07/2023 17:58

PanelChair · 12/07/2023 17:36

I can believe that the OP won the appeal (even if it was an ICS appeal) if she could demonstrate that there’d been an error in measuring the distance which had cost her the place. I am struggling to believe that any appeal panel would ask such loaded, hostile questions to any parent.

Especially if they asked 'why is she a good fit', because panels aren't allowed to show preference for 'good' children that would be an asset to a school.

PanelChair · 12/07/2023 18:00

Indeed. Nor the rather sneering question about the parents’ working arrangements.

BendingSpoons · 12/07/2023 19:22

I still can't get over the entitlement of needing a particular school to make school runs more convenient for your nanny (so they don't have to walk through the rough parts of town) and to be closer to your work but not seeing why siblings are usually prioritised. Admissions fraud is of course very different.

But then I made the dubious choice to have 2 children. My 4yo only speaks one language, is still in stage 1 swimming lessons after a year and has never had a ballet lesson in his life. So what do I know.

PatriciaHolm · 12/07/2023 19:26

PanelChair · 12/07/2023 17:36

I can believe that the OP won the appeal (even if it was an ICS appeal) if she could demonstrate that there’d been an error in measuring the distance which had cost her the place. I am struggling to believe that any appeal panel would ask such loaded, hostile questions to any parent.

Agree. And no, I can't imagine a panel actually asking do you raise your child. Its all really quite unusual.

I suspect English is not OPs first language, so possibly something has been lost in translation.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 12/07/2023 19:37

@PatriciaHolm maybe her multilingual prodigy child can translate for her?

I don't believe the distance thing was an error. The OP said herself that her house is 0.4miles from the school and the furthest distance previously that someone was offered a place was 0.2 miles. So very unlikely.

The whole thread is getting more bizarre.

LolaSmiles · 12/07/2023 20:01

The whole thread is getting more bizarre.
It really is.
If you've got a highly specialised lawyer then what's someone doing last minute asking for urgent help on Mumsnet to prepare?

CocoPlum · 12/07/2023 20:22

I'm just confused by the OP's assertion that they want to do as many school runs as possible but the offered school was no good because of the level of criminal activity in the area the nanny has severe mobility issues getting there and they rely on her for all the school runs.

MargaretThursday · 12/07/2023 20:43

I am sure that more than 40% of the plays in London are not suitable for a 4yo... even a genius one.

LittleBearPad · 12/07/2023 21:10

MargaretThursday · 12/07/2023 20:43

I am sure that more than 40% of the plays in London are not suitable for a 4yo... even a genius one.

Certainly many of them finish very late - maybe there’s matinees but it would be a packed schedule to have seen so many!

Lougle · 12/07/2023 21:13

CocoPlum · 12/07/2023 20:22

I'm just confused by the OP's assertion that they want to do as many school runs as possible but the offered school was no good because of the level of criminal activity in the area the nanny has severe mobility issues getting there and they rely on her for all the school runs.

I think the OP was saying that one of the carers has severe mobility issues, so they rely on the nanny to take the child to school. The nanny wouldn't be able to take them to the offered school because it was too far away or in the wrong direction, and they don't want to change their nanny because she's wonderful.

Wheelz46 · 12/07/2023 22:34

Totally contradicting yourself here OP, you reckon one of the grounds you won on was because your work is in the opposite direction but that same school doesn't have a sibling rule! 🤣

FYI, of course someone moving out of area should not impact siblings securing a place at the same school as their brother or sister. People's circumstances change, some may not even by choice!

ladydimitrescu · 12/07/2023 22:49

Your 4 year old is fluent in 5 languages, is she?
You realise the ones that they make up don't count, right?

viques · 12/07/2023 23:07

PanelChair · 12/07/2023 17:36

I can believe that the OP won the appeal (even if it was an ICS appeal) if she could demonstrate that there’d been an error in measuring the distance which had cost her the place. I am struggling to believe that any appeal panel would ask such loaded, hostile questions to any parent.

If there is an issue with the software that measures the distance then surely the LA would be bound to examine the measurement that were used for all applications, they wouldn't be able at this stage to remove places from children already offered them but it would be fair to look at the distances of children who were close to being offered a place and offer any spare places to them .

If it happened that is.

PanelChair · 12/07/2023 23:18

In my experience, now that LEAs use straight line distance measured between two data points, errors in measurement are rare but they do sometimes occur when the system fails to find the data point for the home. This happened once (for example) where the family lived in a building which was somehow invisible to the computer package, which defaulted to a data point at the other end of the street. So, an error in one instance doesn’t necessarily call other measurements into question.

ThickSkinnedSoWhat · 13/07/2023 00:40

Lougle · 12/07/2023 21:13

I think the OP was saying that one of the carers has severe mobility issues, so they rely on the nanny to take the child to school. The nanny wouldn't be able to take them to the offered school because it was too far away or in the wrong direction, and they don't want to change their nanny because she's wonderful.

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Well the nanny is wonderful. One minute she is looking after OPs little Einstein 13 hours a day and the next she has difficulty doing a school run. I can only assume she has also played her part in the teaching of five languages and the watching of 60% of the London theatre shows. Well, unless the parents do all this as they suggest. In that case, what the fuck does the nanny actually do all day?

LittleBearPad · 13/07/2023 00:58

Arranges the theatre trips

SheilaFentiman · 13/07/2023 00:59

Performs one woman versions of all west end plays for the DD

mafsfan · 13/07/2023 07:05

Primary teacher here

Heads up OP, you won't like state education in the U.K.

Absolutely guarantee that you will have taken the special one out of state education within the first few years - not that I believe any of the nonsense in her posts anyway!

Quiverer · 13/07/2023 07:10

PanelChair · 12/07/2023 17:36

I can believe that the OP won the appeal (even if it was an ICS appeal) if she could demonstrate that there’d been an error in measuring the distance which had cost her the place. I am struggling to believe that any appeal panel would ask such loaded, hostile questions to any parent.

Well, exactly. Nor would they waste time discussing potential prejudice issues as they are totally irrelevant. And I suspect they would have politely closed OP down as soon as she started talking about the theatre trips etc.