How much progress in Year 2 England?

[2cleverlovingchildren]

Hi my daughter is in year 1 currently. She was allowed to take the KS1 past exam paper with the year 2s at her school before Christmas. She currently scored 100(maths), 100(SPAG), and 102(reading) marked by the teachers at school.

My question is how many scaled score marks would you expect a child to make in a school year? What mark would I expect her to achieve at the end of year 2?

I don't know about SATs but my child sat a year 1 NFER in Maths and English at the end of year 1 which she scored full marks for, then she was given year 2 papers (which I guess isn't too far off SATs) and got full marks again. Her teacher commented on how able she was and has made sure she is being stretched in year 2.

Have you looked into any of the other schools? Moving schools rather than year group would be a better option for your child too, as she sounds similar to mine. Hope you find a good solution.

I agree with this. I genuinely don't understand why you are pushing her to sit SATS, of all things, a year early, let alone mapping out her GCSEs, A-levels and brainstorming her future career options.

I've worked in primary schools around the country for 25+ years. I have seen many truly exceptional students in that time, a few genuinely gifted, but have never, ever once seen or heard of any child accelerated into a different cohort.
I don't understand why you're asking for it?

The response is pretty much unanimous that you’re chasing the wrong target in wanting to get her moved up a year so it doesn’t make sense why you still seem to be intent on it. As a teacher yourself, surely you can see she would be much better supported in a school that is able to stretch and challenge the brighter children and in a larger cohort where she is more likely to be with other children of similar academic ability

Thanks for everyone’s opinions.

I have been to the other 3 local primary schools and spoken with parents of students who go to them and have found out that she wouldn’t benefit from moving to any of them.

It is a shame that most people on MN have misinterpreted my intentions.

I will be considering pulling my daughter from schooling and home educating which was something I was previously against due to knowing the importance of her having a friendship group but it appears that all other students in the area who have found themselves in this type of situation have had to do the same. She will then will at least mix with these students instead.

It’s disappointing primary teachers do not seem to be able to teach these types of students.

I will not be posting on this thread any further.

Oh dear. Primary school is extremely important to the acquisition of social skills, something it's becoming apparent she's going to need modelling. You're trying to make her into a big fish in a little pond, it's not going to end we!!. School is as much for socialising as acquiring knowledge, she'll need that to enjoy her life and to do well in the w

Primary teachers can and do, up and down the country. I resent being told I can't do my job, just because other people don't do theirs to as high a standard.

it appears that all other students in the area who have found themselves in this type of situation have had to do the same. She will then will at least mix with these students instead.

It’s disappointing primary teachers do not seem to be able to teach these types of students.

From everything you've posted she's working about a year ahead. She's not an anomaly in this. There will be plenty of others who are working at the same level, or even higher, even if you want to believe otherwise. The parents of these children don't all choose home education as they realise that there's more to life than exams, accelerated learning and results.

You've dismissed the other schools without even giving them a chance, and would prefer for your DD to stay at a school that you're clearly not happy with. I really hope you take a step back and take the focus off results and pushing for her to move year groups. It's not the solution you think it is, and your child won't thank you for making being clever her entire identity.

If she wants to be a brain surgeon, she will need to have the soft skills of being able to communicate with not only her patients but her entire team at work.

You mentioned you can't afford tutors for the next 12 years. How are you going to manage all the teaching by yourself? You really need to think this through properly if you've been a teacher yourself. It sounds like you want her to take exams early and set her up as a genius (6 A levels in 4 years!? There are many that do 5 in 2!) but from what we are hearing she is just "doing well" in a national level, perhaps the top 10%, but it's not extraordinary like you're thinking. It means there would be 3 kids like yours in a class of 30. Again, if you were a teacher, you would probably have come across many that are like your child.

Please also be aware of what you may be doing to her MH. This could even ruin her career if not her entire life.

I'm not sure you are coming back to the thread @2cleverlovingchildren , but just a repeat of a comment I've heard from a couple of places.
If skipping one year will sort out the academic side of things, there is probably limited benifit in skipping, as the current year group is probably ok.
If skipping 2+ years would sort the academics, it's probably a social disaster waiting to happen.

Basically, there isn't really a solution to those few kids who are academically outstanding.

We have stretched our (topish of the year, but never contemplated skipping a year) kids sideways. We will be having a conversation with school about maths for my 11 year old - ideally when they are going to set for maths, like they did with his brother, as maths is pur biggest "boredom" subject, otherwise they need to stretch him further within the class - but have otherwise just left them be at school.

I hope you find a solution that works for you and your daughter.