Deprived area primary school

[FreshCop]

If you had a choice would you put your child in a good/outstanding school in a deprived area?

Teachers will be excellent and do their best. However parent attitudes aren’t the best and probably a lot of chaotic home lives.

Or would you rather travel further to get your child in a school in a better area with more supportive parents interested in their child’s education?

Also if you’re a teacher it would be great to hear your perspective too.

You have a very strange way of viewing what you term as 'deprived' schools.
For the most part, barring children with SEN or behavioural needs (and sorry to break it to you but these children exist in the leafiest of leafy schools too), the schools I have worked in and the schools I visit in my wider role are peaceful, calm places. The 'chaos' as you so delightfully put it, is generally due to external factors. At this point I can't even see the reason for your OP - you seem to know quite a lot about the school you say you are considering? Perhaps you just wanted a nice comforting trip through a comfy middle class echo chamber? Meh. Don't pretend that this thread has made up your mind. And you could apologise to Emily for being so patronising and rude to her.

This school clearly isn't good enough for you or your child so I isn't get why you posted. You've hung around enough to see the calibre of parents is not who you'd want in your living for your kids birthday party and clearly see there would be a detrimental impact on him of associating with the children there. There you are, decision done.

However, if you live local to THIS school and will be going out of your way to the nicer school, beware YOU don't become the lower class parent who'd be a bad influence on the charming MC kids and who never gets invited over the to summer soirée

To be honest Jimmy, I almost feel like apologising to her that she has such a pathetic attitude toward fellow human beings who were likely raised in less privileged circumstances. I was bullied in school due to my lack of fancy belongings too, what's the bet she was likely one of them. Its her kid who will end up doing the same thing because they're being brought up by someone so immoral. I pity that to be honest.

Personally I would go for the school in the "better area."

I did my teacher training in a school that was in a very deprived catchment area. Most of my time was spent on sorting out poor behaviour than teaching. The majority of the parents - not all - were simply not invested in their child's education, which then translated into a lack of interest and engagement from the children (this was across the whole school). It was a baptism of fire for me and a real eye opener. I never would have thought I would be calling the Police over two Y1 parents in the school playground in front of the children.

Now a parent myself, we were choosing a primary school for Sept 22 intake. We are in a very middle-class area. We did briefly toy with the idea of the local Catholic school that is about a 30 minute walk away, which only has around 10% of the school population as Catholic, but the school has been in and out of requiring improvement, closed down and re-opened as an Academy. Teachers are leaving and it is ill-equipped to support SEN / behavioural.

We ended up sending DD to the local catchment school that serves a very middle-class area - houses in the area are around £800k. I think it does show - the parents are very invested in the school, fundraising etc and their children's education.

Education is important and I wouldn't gamble with it.

No.

We looked at this in Tower Hamlets, and even the outstanding schools were pretty shit for our children. Yes, they did wonders for the demographic that they were trying hardest with (chronically poor children of first-generation mainly Somali immigrants, many of whom had little to no English, and few of who’s parent worked) but they simply were not set up to cope with children such as ours, so we moved.

Tower Hamlets has been a slum for over a hundred years before the latest migrants arrived ( mostly white, middle classed people ) where schools are dismissed as 'shit'. The outstanding status comes from migrant kids whose families know education is there only way out, they can't afford to up and move to a 'neice area'. BUT Give it another 20 years and it will shift and become truly gentrified like parts of Hackney with trendy middle classed Boden kids in the local primary along with the million plus 4 beds.

Its tragic reading people dismissing these areas its so insulting to the generations of people who try and make their best in hard situations.

Why do people who have a choice even consider these schools when they're clearly below your class?

Because this is what this thread is all about: can a middle classed (by attitude or wealth) family ever 'slum it' in a deprived area or should they move.
Its as bad as the 'state till eight' brigade...

We lived there for twenty years, and are immigrants too, but thanks for the patronizing lecture.

If your local you can't disagree the gentrification across the borough has been rife, like wildfire , City types in Bow and Wapping and of course the millions of half a mill flats in the Wharf, Arty rich kids in Bethnal Green , Whitechapel and Hoxton. All next to council estates

If you believe the schools are 'shit' , I can only imagine what you thought they were like when you first moved to the area 20 years ago. I wasn't patronising you, just stating the facts whats happened to the East End, from slum to uber hip to fully 1.5 mil a house gentrified - Yes, I'm looking at you Bow, the same process is happening to Peckham.

Peckham has its first prep school now for local chattering classes now, The Villa.

We've always had the Montessori school, Gatehouse near Viccy park, but now we have prep schools in E14, (Faraday) only a matter of time before we get one in Bow.

I'm not singling you out @CloudybutMild for not choosing to send your kids local in the borough of Tower Hamlets, its dismissing the schools as shit that got me angry, given we are talking about a borough with some of the poorest kids in the country, its a heartless thing to say.

Send your kids where you want, but I would NEVER dismiss schools that Ofsted have rated as outstanding as 'shit' in areas of abject poverty. Its akin to laughing at someone because they are poor.

I feel your pain. I automatically got labelled as a swearing, tracksuit wearer that nobody would want to speak to. I don't wear a tracksuit, and I dress in my nicest clothes (admittedly primark because I prefer to keep my daughter clothed and fed) and go for the train straight after drop off to attend my university (Russell Group - doesn't matter to me but I imagine it does to the snobby OP). OP actually made me feel more worthless than the parents I encounter at the school gates.

@FreshCop All students in Y1 and up should have their own desks with storage space. Sitting together at tables encourages distraction, copying, whispering, and other low level disruption. If space allows, there should be a table for small group work.