KS2 SATS

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Does anyone know what the threshold was for Greater Depth? Also, any ideas on whether any of the papers were particularly difficult this year in comparison?

I read somewhere that 110+ was the threshold for greater depth. I wish they give us the numerical figure.

110 standardised score for GDS
It wasn’t the hardest paper I’ve seen, we had lots miss the pass by 1/2/3 marks though which is frustrating

Reading GDS was 41
maths was 96
GPS was 55

110+ greater depth. Was supposedly easier in comparison to normal to make up for missing school past few years due to covid.

Just Google, its all available online.

There was an interesting table on twitter Tuesday with last 5 years exc Covid) GDS scores & % and stuff.

This table?

They were the same papers that were due to be used in 2020, so nothing to do with covid. I felt the reading paper was quite easy; SPAG and maths similar to other years. I’m a Y6 teacher.

Are you sure? I thought those were scrapped. I thought all the papers were extremely fair. Apart from the SPAG was, as usual, too wordy, too long and too boring. But I always say that 😉

Does anyone know how to find out what % of children achieved greater depth. Google is not helping. My DS scored 113, 113 and 111. He is my only child, obviously I know this is good but I don't know how good. Thanks.

We had a letter home from school today: average score nationally was 105 for reading, 105 for spag and 104 for maths.

This was from my DC's school in 2019.

I don't think it is 110 for greater depth, s it 111? My daughter got 110 for reading and it says 'met the expected standard'? Not greater depth.

That’s really interesting, thanks!

I think it depends on the school as I've seen a few reports that don't even mention greater depth at all and just say achieved standard but were well over 111. For scaled score 110 and over is greater depth. If you look at their raw scores then greater depth is different for each one. 96/110 for maths, 55/70 for grammar punctuation and spelling and 41/50 for reading.

@Sprig1 The secondary school will possibly use these figures to set target grades for GCSEs. DD2 got greater depth and is targeted grade 7+ for her GCSEs. Not sure what relevance a good score in English has to learning in food tech though!

@Philandbill so would you need greater depth across the board to be predicted 7s at GCSE? My DC has GD in maths & reading, with expected standard (or whatever they call it) for writing/SPAG.

I think predictions are different for each subject so she'd maybe be predicted 7 or over for maths and possibly english literature but not english language.

National percentages for Greater depth aren't out yet, just expected plus. Results from the NCER sample( from over 13,000 schools) shows 27.8%GD for reading, 12.9% GD for writing and 22.4%GD for maths.

@greyinganddecaying honestly don't know, sorry.
I think that prediction of grades is not an exact science though! Friend's DD did very well in GCSEs (9 and 7 for Eng Lit and Lang respectively) and has loved Eng Lit A level (result pending but expected to get a B or A) yet at SATs level was a grade 4 (before the days of greater depth) which was the required standard then.

Thanks so much Spud, that makes sense, I've read it through again and there's no mention of GD at all. I would be interested to see her raw scores, we haven't been told.

If you have the scaled scores you can get the raw scores by reverse engineering the tables on the government website?
You won't get the individual paper scores though eg arithmetic vs maths reasoning.

I'm confused too. DS got 114 for reading and expected. I haven't got the raw scores.

It depends whether you have " achieved expected standard" or " expected" . The two are slightly different! Achieved expected standard means they scored over 100 scaled score, this is the " expected standard" . Some schools will just report this, you have either met or not met the expected standard. Some schools will split expected standard into expected and greater depth, for those with a scaled score of 110 or over and report this.

We had loads on 40/109 for Reading. We are trawling through looking for missed marks…