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Scary when teacher shouts

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purpleme12 · 06/03/2022 22:13

My child says it's scary when the teacher shouts
And it's very fierce
Is this normal for children to feel like this when teachers shout?

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ButterflyBitch · 06/03/2022 22:20

The teacher shouldn’t really be shouting. They should have strategies to get the class’s attention and quieten them down. I don’t know how old your child is but it’s normal for a child to be worried about someone shouting especially if they sound fierce.

purpleme12 · 06/03/2022 22:30

8
I'm not sure if it's shouting to get their attention or other stuff. Well I know it's other stuff but it might be to get their attention as well
The teacher in the previous year shouted but hardly ever at her so it never came up as an issue
She's mentions shouting more this year. At her. And when we were having our heart to heart tonight about lots of different things she said it was scary

I didn't know if this was normal for a child or not at school when teachers shout. I assumed some teachers did shout

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Swimbikerunmummy · 06/03/2022 22:58

I’ve got an 8 year old who is frequently unsettled by the same thing. It comes up in conversation at home lots.

purpleme12 · 06/03/2022 23:04

Ok that's interesting thank you
Perhaps it's not just mine then

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Heckythump1 · 07/03/2022 12:49

My daughter is in Year 1 and her friend says their teacher shouts and she doesn't like it, but my daughter says the teacher doesn't shout, she's just strict!
(My daughter worships the ground her teacher walks on and absolutely adores her!)

purpleme12 · 07/03/2022 14:16

It's so hard to know what's going on!
I wish I could see what happens

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Fernandina · 07/03/2022 14:19

Are you sure they aren't just raising their voice above the general classroom chatter?

Twintrouble1234 · 07/03/2022 14:19

My 2 dc have the same higher level TA covering their separate classes while their main teacher does PPA - one dreads that day every week and gets very upset about the whole class tellings off. The other acknowledges the TA shouts more but absolutely loves him!

Nosnogginginthekitchen · 07/03/2022 14:20

My daughter refers to anyone being stern, strict or generally telling her off or being firm as shouting. She is incredibly sensitive to it. It's hard to know whether it's this happening at school or actual shouting. Dd often bursts into tears and runs away when I talk firmly or sternly to her whilst shouting "stop shouting at me". So I'm afraid I do take reports of shouty teachers with a pinch of salt

PeacefulPrune · 07/03/2022 14:23

I would have a chat with the teacher. I would just say something like... my child mentioned that she was scared of you shouting so I just wanted to check if there were any behaviour issues that I need to be aware of?

That way the teacher knows you're aware of the shouting, and that it's scarey to your child and you get to find out of what's going on.

Longcovid21 · 07/03/2022 14:27

Teachers are not beyond being bullies. I would keep an eye on the situation and perhaps even let the teacher know you daughter is scared. That way it's a head up to the teacher that she has been clocked being a twat.

TizerorFizz · 08/03/2022 16:43

We had a “shouter” at our junior school. DD was robust but thankfully she never taught either of mine. All the parents knew she was the “shouter”. Also DD of the Chair of Governors. Some parents were adamant they would leave if she taught their child. She taught y3 or Y4. No one I knew liked her or respected her. She did become a head though at the worst school in the town with quite a good selection of poor schools. Maybe they valued shouting.

Speak to her. If no resolution, speak to the head. It’s not acceptable.

TizerorFizz · 08/03/2022 16:44

That should say the shouter was the DD of the chair of governors.

Postcovid · 16/03/2022 15:27

"Teachers don't shout"?! I've heard my DC's Year 1 teacher shouting from outside at pick up time!

CakeRabbit · 16/03/2022 20:20

@Longcovid21

Teachers are not beyond being bullies. I would keep an eye on the situation and perhaps even let the teacher know you daughter is scared. That way it's a head up to the teacher that she has been clocked being a twat.
Teachers need to raise their voices to get attention. It's not always shouting. Some children interpret it as shouting. Projecting your voice doesn't make you a "twat".
Pumperthepumper · 16/03/2022 20:24

Regardless of whether it’s shouting or projecting, your daughter shouldn’t be scared. I’d speak to the school.

TizerorFizz · 16/03/2022 23:32

A teacher raising their voice to get a class to quieten down is normal. Barking orders is not normal. Nor is shouting at individual children. It’s all about context, intonation of voice and the commands/instructions being issued. Regular shouting is counter productive.

MaryAndHerNet · 16/03/2022 23:36

My daughter used to get upset at the teacher shouting.
But she also didn't like it when I shouted either. Her idea of shouting though is just a loud and forceful tone.

If a teacher doesn't shout, how would they get the attention of a class full.of 6 year olds? Saying they shouldnt shout is stupid, anyone in charge of a group of people has to shout sometimes, whether it's a teacher of kids, a manager of adults, a sergeant and gang of cops or soldiers etc etc.

ballsdeep · 16/03/2022 23:42

@Longcovid21

Teachers are not beyond being bullies. I would keep an eye on the situation and perhaps even let the teacher know you daughter is scared. That way it's a head up to the teacher that she has been clocked being a twat.
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Ozanj · 16/03/2022 23:48

My 2 yo tells me to ‘stop shouting at me mummy’ when I use my strict tone at him. I wouldn’t expect an 8 year old to have the same confusion. So either the teacher is shouting or she’s lying because she’s hoping you will intervene. How is she at school? Is she enjoying lessons? Does she have friends in the same class or different ones? Is the teacher a different race / religion to her?

Kanaloa · 17/03/2022 03:10

I think it depends. Is she very sensitive or likely to exaggerate? If not and then teacher is genuinely shouting at the kids regularly then I would speak to the head teacher. It’s not really acceptable and it’s unlikely to form a good classroom environment where kids feel safe and secure.

On a personal level in very hard on things like this because I know from experience that the classroom is the first and only place some children feel safe, the place where they learn it’s not normal or necessary to fear adults. A teacher who regularly screams or shouts to the point of frightening students isn’t going to have the trust and confidence of those students, which is so necessary in my opinion.

Kanaloa · 17/03/2022 03:14

@MaryAndHerNet

My daughter used to get upset at the teacher shouting. But she also didn't like it when I shouted either. Her idea of shouting though is just a loud and forceful tone.

If a teacher doesn't shout, how would they get the attention of a class full.of 6 year olds? Saying they shouldnt shout is stupid, anyone in charge of a group of people has to shout sometimes, whether it's a teacher of kids, a manager of adults, a sergeant and gang of cops or soldiers etc etc.

There are lots of ways to get attention without shouting? Bells/little drums are used in some schools and nurseries, lots of schools now use call and response (hocus pocus - everybody focus/one two three - eyes on me), clapping hands etc. A professional teacher should know how to control the class without resorting to screaming at them.

Anyway calling out ‘class everyone look over here please’ is unlikely to be frightening an 8 year old. I would presume the teacher is shouting when telling them off.

Also, your assertion that everyone has to shout, including a ‘manager adults’ is just so weird. I’ve had a lot of jobs and absolutely never has a manager shouted at me. If they did I’d resign on the spot, it would be utterly unprofessional and disrespectful.

DaisyTheUnicorn · 17/03/2022 03:36

I'm a bit surprised at the "everyone shouts" comment. I think that's perhaps not as universal as suggested...

My daughter has some shouty teachers in her school but thankfully not her class. There's one she can hear across the hallway in the other class! That scares her sometimes even though it's not her class.

I think teaching is becoming such a difficult job, and many schools making it even more so (see the numbers leaving or trying to leave) unfortunately I think this doesn't breed the best environment.

Lookingforanswers202 · 17/03/2022 04:21

My son says his teacher screams at him, he has ASD and is very sensitive to tone, so a stern voice to him is shouting.

ForkedIt · 17/03/2022 04:57

Does it matter if the teacher is actually shouting or ‘just’ using a stern tone?
Your child says that they are scared at school. They can’t leave, they have no power.
I had teachers at school who didn’t necessarily even shout but scared the shit out of me. I had my first panic attack at 10 because I forgot my maths homework. Luckily, I got sent home ‘ill’ before the teacher knew.
I AM a very sensitive person and the teacher was possibly (probably?) managing the class in a way that was beneficial to the other 29 students.

Perhaps try and find out how the teacher is talking to the class. If you think it’s fine then work with your child on coping strategies.

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