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Is this standard ability for year 1?

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Freespirit1511 · 30/09/2020 16:40

This is impossible for my autumn born year 1 child but this also seems really hard to read? Not sure how concerned I should be!

Is this standard ability for year 1?
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Whatthebloodyell · 30/09/2020 19:53

My summer born dd could
have read that all at the start of year 1, but no way would she have drawn one picture, let alone 3! She always has been top of her class at reading though. My younger reception Aged dd Would
Just about manage the first column now. I don’t think she is nearly as able as her sister.

I think that I would be concerned if my year 1 child wasn’t at the mild stage yet, and would
Want to discuss it with their teacher. But sometimes some kids just take longer to get going with their reading, but catch up with the rest by the time they are in juniors. My eldest dd was way ahead of most of her peers at the start of year 1, but now she is in year 4 they are all reading the same books at home for fun.

trilbydoll · 30/09/2020 19:56

I think the blending just clicks at some point. In July DD would have laboriously sounded out the Mild column while I stabbed myself in the eye with a rusty spoon. Tonight she read two of the spicy ones relatively smoothly - she didn't know the 'igh' sound. It seemed to happen overnight.

Does she watch alphablocks or play on any phonics apps?

I wouldn't get too hung up on other people's homework, you've got no way of knowing what level of parental involvement there was.

hopsalong · 30/09/2020 20:00

I think it depends very much on the school, location, and exposure to English before arriving. Most of the children in my son's year 1 class speak a language other than English at home, and they have been home a lot recently.

My son does not seem to me to be gifted or exceptional but he would have been able to read these in reception. He's in year 1 now (spring born) and has been getting Roald Dahl books as his school reading books recently. He has read five. Another boy in his class is similar. So I don't think the spicy sentences are challenging at all for the best readers at this age!

KnightError · 30/09/2020 20:01

My DC1 would have been reading the third column when he was about two (how very Mumsnet).

The others definitely wouldn't have been reading the third column in Year One.

All are summer babies.

NandosPeriometer · 30/09/2020 20:33

My son wouldn't have been able to draw such a complex picture never mind read most of that.

Freespirit1511 · 30/09/2020 21:25

Thank you. I'm definitely very conscious of it all. Partially because nct friends the same age as her younger brother are starting to overtake her reading but I'm surprised by how tricky some of it seems for this stage!

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Findahouse21 · 01/10/2020 09:32

@Freespirit1511 did you get an end of reception report indicating where your dd was on the eyfs? If not, you can Google the criteria just to give an indication of what the expected levels are at the end of reception.

Freespirit1511 · 01/10/2020 10:10

@Findahouse21 they weren't allowed to give levels in their reports this year apparantly but I know in May she was varying from 22-36 emerging to 30-50 emerging and I think two in the 40-60 emerging as I asked. Her report just said "although she hasn't yet met the EL goals she has made progress".

I would have thought a child who is 68 months and not meeting the early learning goals is a bit different to their 58/59 month olds but apparantly not. (Only used months for the difference). She's 6 in a few weeks and I don't think she will meet them yet.

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Keepdistance · 01/10/2020 16:19

Those 22-36 would be concerning i would think.
Does she recognise all letters?
Watch alphablocks.
I take is she is still on band 1 pink?
To get the blending you can read words in books to her like that. And any book you are reading with phonetically regular word or two let her read those.
My dc 5.1 came on a lot with reading eggs. Went from almost 0 sounds to blending from july to now.
Still has a few sounds she doesn't recognise but is generally a lot better.

Which books does the school use? As some still seem to use non phonic ones.
Im glad mine has gone at CSA so is 5 in yr r as i think might have struggled last yr and is really struggling with friendships anyway which im really surprised about as she really loved nursery.

BigusBumus · 01/10/2020 17:24

None of my sons would have been able to read any column but the first one in Y1. None of them were very good readers until about Y3 when it just clicked. They are doing their A levels/GCSEs now!

IHateCoronavirus · 01/10/2020 17:47

Hi op, I have taught early years for many years. The 30-50 emerging is below age related expectations for a reception child. The 22-36 emerging would be concerning and would flag up the need to investigate/provide intervention.

Have/did school have anything in place for her? We’re outside agencies involved at all SALT for example? Can you remember what areas of development the lower level of attainment were in?
How is her sequencing in general? Is she able to count in order, does she recognise routine, for example would she dress in order starting with underwear when dressing herself?

Ellapaella · 01/10/2020 17:52

My youngest is year one and would be able to read that fine.

Freespirit1511 · 01/10/2020 18:23

@IHateCoronavirus

Just dug it out. Was low 30-50 in making relationships, managing feelings and behaviour. 22-36 in speaking and listening & attention.

The highest she got for anything was mid 40-60 in both numbers and space, shape and measure.

She is amazing counting and with routines such as getting dressed, almost too rigid with them. She is under SALT but hasn't actually received a session since Feb 2019!

@Keepdistance they aren't sending books home for her yet, they've said she's not ready after last year when she got books from all over the place on the schemes. They use the letters and sounds fully decodable books.

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Nosnogginginthekitchen · 01/10/2020 18:33

Just asked my March born Yr 1 to read the third column and she could, but she got very grumpy at me for asking until i told her it was a competition Grin

She's bright, but not very cooperative... Hmm got to push the right buttons.

Nosnogginginthekitchen · 01/10/2020 18:34

eep. Sorry. Didn't see second page.

MummaGiles · 01/10/2020 18:43

My Jan born y1 DS just read them all without much difficulty. He’s probably towards the top end of his class but by no means exceptional, just above average.

IHateCoronavirus · 01/10/2020 18:50

Freespirit1511 It will be worth checking she still under SALT, sometimes they discharge children for missed appointments etc.

Obviously I cannot observe your little girl but going on the information given I would be aiming to address listening and attention and also her speaking skills. She needs to be solid in these to read and understand what she has read.

Is her speaking clear? Can unfamiliar people understand what she says? Is she forming her sounds correctly?
If not it might be worth getting hearing assessed.
Can she follow two part instructions?

I would then focus on pre-reading skills. Can she distinguish between different sounds in the environment. Youtube has lots of environmental tracks you can listen to with her. Can she hear and find rhyming words? Can she hear the initial sound in words, end sounds?
Then following this can she blend and segment words. If you said to her /d/o/g would she be able to tell you it was dog?

All of these need to be mastered before she is able to decode words for reading.

Is that of any use?

NellyJames · 01/10/2020 19:06

I agree with @IHateCoronavirus. I think you are right to be a little concerned and you should be pushing school to look at where she is standardised for her age.

Has she had a recent hearing test? You mention she’s under SaLT. If not, I’d speak to the GP and ask to be referred for a hearing test. If she’s struggling to hear then she’ll struggle to pick up and blend sounds. Can you see a private SaLT? That might help speed things up.

Scholastic do a set of workbooks called pre readers or similar. It’s matching pictures with initial sounds etc. I think you can get them on Amazon and they may help. With regards her name, just write it both normally then in dots and she can trace it then practise it herself. Try not to worry but don’t accept school saying it’s all fine as her scores IMO range from lowish towards concerning. Good luck.

NellyJames · 01/10/2020 19:13

If her name is, say, Susan, try and emphasise the S sound at the beginning then look around the house for other objects that also start with a S. So, S for Susan and S for sock.

TakeMeToYourLiar · 01/10/2020 19:17

@GottaPlanStan

I work in a Year 1 class.

I think most of our class would be able to sound out and read the sentences in the first column. A few would be able to say the individual sounds but be unable to blend them to make words.

The second column has some of the phase 3 phonics sounds that we haven't yet covered (ai, ar, oi) so most would struggle with those. They are learning them fairly quickly though, so it would be different in a few weeks time.

I don't think any of our class would be able to read the third column yet.

The class will have lost a term of phonics teaching during lockdown and so may be a bit further behind than last year's Year 1 children (in our school anyway).

You aren't being serious?? My preschooler van read the middle box, I'm not saying this, I showed him and asked him to read it.

Right hand column no.

He wouldn't be able to draw either. He understands but his pen control is piss poor, even for a 3 year old

FreeButtonBee · 01/10/2020 19:27

My summer born year 1 would be able to do column one and two pretty easily and have a good go at the third column. He regressed a lot with reading in lock down but it really clicked at the end of June with steady focus on just phonics (1 hour per day). He’s probably not secure on all the phonics sounds but would be pretty close. But he is pretty bright. And very lucky with home support (and two older siblings to be aiming at).

EcoCustard · 01/10/2020 19:28

My November born yr1 dc can read mild, some of medium and sound out and blend bits of spicy. He is on pink book band, and getting extra support with phonics. He is a reluctant reader, refused throughout lockdown despite loving stories. He is Biff & Kipper averse and struggles at school With reading. CVC words also seem to prove tricky. According to classmates parents their children are all way ahead but teachers are not concerned but giving some extra support, which is helping.

His sister started Reception this year, November born and is Better at phonics, blending and reading, They all differ. I have driven myself mad recently comparing him to others, which added to mine and his stress. We have taken a step back now, relaxed a bit and tried to find ways to help him. Phonics play have some great resources (free) which have helped him. His eye test revealed he needed glasses, they helped too.

His teacher assured me that I shouldn’t worry, and not take any notice of others as they are all at differing levels which is why this term there is a recap of last terms phonics.

1AngelicFruitCake · 01/10/2020 19:33

I’m a teacher and I would raise concerns with the school. Like someone else said, school during lockdown was childcare and not to ‘teach’, that’s why so many parents (including me!) found working and home learning hard.
Don’t be fobbed off, bring up the fact she’s not at the expected standard in the Early Learning Goals.

NewlyGranny · 01/10/2020 19:35

If the issue is blending sounds to make s word, OP, why not play some oral games with her, like asking her what the word is when you say "Sssss ... i... t"? Leave about a second between sounds. As she gets it, ask her to segment some words into their sounds for you to blend.

clareykb · 01/10/2020 19:38

My twins are autumn born Y2 buy we're prem and have additional issues due to that which makes reading and writing a challenge. I think they would have struggled with this at the start of y1 but would have probably managed mild. They could now do all of them as it did just click later. I'm also a teacher and having taught ks1 the range in ability is huge.