A new RSE curriculum coming to a school near you

[koteczek]

In the coming year schools will be introducing a whole new RSE curriculum. They are legally obliged to consult parents about the contents of this curriculum. Originally it was going to be introduced in September 2020 but due to covid the possibility of consulting was made very difficult and therefore schools have been allowed to delay this introduction until the beginning of the summer term September 2021.

Do make sure that your school consults you. If you would like to know more about your parental rights please see the Values Foundation values.foundation/. If you would like to know more about the resources available please see the following review www.rsereview.org/ Here is a link to resources which are less likely to sexualise your child than some of the more mainstream resources rseauthentic.uk/ Here is a video about some of the resources with links provided at the end for those who would like to know more

What you’ve actually posted are religious links dressed up as ‘values’

This isn’t new news. Yes parents will be consulted (in reality this can be just the schools saying they are teaching RSE and invite any questions from parents) but by law children now have to be taught all aspects of RSE at primary. The only part that does not have to be taught and that parents can say no to is the actual sexual intercourse bit.

It is not about ‘sexualising’ young children. It is about educating them to be aware and accepting of all different types of relationships and to be able to identify inappropriate relationships not only in their own lives but in others as well.

Any parent who is horrified that their daughter will learn about periods at primary school needs to think about why they are so concerned? It’s been taught at this age so that it’s not a shock to children when it happens.

There is are significant differences between the law, which is sound, the guidance which is okay and the actual materials are sometimes very problematic. Unfortunately Relationships and Sex Education is no longer simply teaching children about periods.

Here are some links and resources if you would actually like to know what is going on:
See in particular pp.26-29 of the following book. www.transgendertrend.com/product/inclusive-relationships-and-sex-education-in-schools-rse/

If you check the Proud Trust's Sexual Health tool kit you will find 'the dice game' This is behind a pay wall but these are some of the contents: " “Anus/penis: Sometimes called ‘anal sex’ this can be a pleasurable experience for the person inserting their penis and the person ‘receiving’ the penis in their anus. The internal clitoris and/or prostate gland can be stimulated through this kind of sex.”

“Anus/object: the anus can be pleasured by placing objects next to the anus or inside it. The anus responds to temperature, size and movement changes. It is important that objects used in sex are clean. Objects must be smooth, or have ridges, but must be retrievable!”

“Anus/mouth: sometimes called ‘oral sex’ or ‘rimming’. It can be pleasurable for some people to experience giving and receiving oral sex to the anus. You can explore the anus with the tongue and lips by kissing, sucking and licking the area.”

“Anus/hands and fingers: you can touch, stroke or insert finger(s) into the anus – this is called ‘masturbation’ or ‘fingering.’

“Anus/vulva: some people enjoy pushing or rubbing their anus and vulva together as the warmth, pressure and moisture can be pleasurable.”

“Anus/anus: although direct anus-anus contact may be tricky to achieve, pushing anuses towards each other and buttocks against each other can be pleasurable. The warmth and intimacy of the contact could be enjoyable.”

The above Dice Game is for 13 year olds upwards.

The Proud Trust is substantially funded by our government.

Here is an organisation called The BigTalk which appears to be providing (along with many other organisations) very confusing talk about sex and gender: www.bigtalkeducation.co.uk/rse-information-and-support-for-schools/sex-gender/ Again the following book provides lots of information about the terrible stuff out there re: gender

www.transgendertrend.com/product/inclusive-relationships-and-sex-education-in-schools-rse/

Brook's traffic light tool normalises sexual intercourse under the age of 16 so for example if you look at this page it says that for the ages of 13 - 17 "consenting oral and/or penetrative sex with others of the same or opposite gender who are of similar age and developmental ability" is what they call a green behaviour i.e. totally fine. legacy.brook.org.uk/brook_tools/traffic/index.html?syn_partner=

Brook on masturbation www.brook.org.uk/your-life/masturbation/

Brook teaching young people about Anal sex www.brook.org.uk/your-life/anal-sex/

Underage sex is also normalised in a book written by two very mainstream sex ed advisors Alice Hoyle (Sex Education Forum) and Ester McGeeny from Brook) their book Great Relationships and Sex Education is described in the TES as "destined to be on every sex educators shelf" (or some such) so it is really mainstream.
It has activities for 13 year olds where they write down where it feels good to be touched and how the whole body is a potneial site of pleasure...it says "Emphasise that pleasure is a whole body experience that can involve all our senses whether we are experiencing pleasure through exercise, food, intimacy , playing music of having sex. Understanding what feels good in your own body can help you to maximise the enjoyable experience you have and communicate to others what you do and do not enjoy..." etc
They have activities where they sculpt genitals in playdoh and so on. (harmless I suppose but what a waste of time!)

A quote from the book where they discuss sex for 14 year olds upwards says things like:
"You may need to encourage participants to think broadly about all the different ways people have intimate and/or erotic experiences on their own and with others including kissing, hugging, different kinds of touch, mutual masturbation, sex using sex toys , etc. Prompt with questions such as: What about sex for older people? Young people? Sex for people with physical disabilities? Sex with someone of the same/ different gender? Sex on your own"
and then they end up making lists about some of the more extreme sexual practices that young people may have heard about...pupils are encouraged to avoid passing judgement.

If you go on to the evidence section of the Values Foundation Website (which you can find under the word 'Initiatives)' you will find some letters from parents which shows how devastating what has been happening is for children. values.foundation/ But actually there is just loads of information under this section. Really useful information. So yes click on evidence and then go on to the google drive.

Unfortunately RSE is no longer simply teaching our children about the birds and the bees.

Okay. Just check what I have written below.

I’m a Pshe lead in a large secondary. I’ve drafted our new rse policy and curriculum, it does not include any of the examples you’ve listed.
Why all the religious links in your initial post ?

I am Christian. It tends to be religious people who are most likely to uphold particular sexual standards. We are most affected by RSE because although the right to bring up our children in accordance with our values is enshrined in law it is totally trampled on by some of the RSE material.
Hopefully very few schools will use for example The Proud Trust's material although I think even one school doing so would amount to child abuse. However the ethos which underpins these materials, acceptance of anal sex, tacit acceptance of underage sex, the idea that pleasure is the primary aim of sex, encouragement of masturbation and so forth (I don't see why children should be encouraged to masturbate these things come naturally) - this ethos underpins sex education more broadly. Even if you don't use the above materials the Brook traffic light tool for example is for all people working with children.
I have attended webinars where teachers are very keen to know how to teach their pupils about attainment of sexual pleasure. So I am glad your RSE curriculum doesn't use these examples. It doesn't mean that is necessarily okay. Maybe for some parents it is, maybe for some parents it isn't. I hope all parents will be consulted, and the materials you are using be made available to parents and that parents will properly participate and their views taken into consideration.

Then you needed to be honest in your initial post that this was actually about your religious views.

It isn't about my religious views. It is about my concern for future generations.
It does seem to be mainly Christians who are concerned about children engaging in underage sex, about the promotion of anal sex, about the confusion of a child's sex identity (to be fair feminists are excellent here), about the sexualisation of childhood and so forth. But the fact that I am Christian does not make these concerns irrelevant. I am not sure why non-religious people don't have the same concerns but it highlights for me the practical importance of Christian faith in contemporary society.

It absolutely is about your religious views and do claim to support feminism when you’ve previously linked a post from Belinda Brown
conservativewoman.co.uk/belinda-brown-anti-feminist-agenda/

Do not

It tends to be religious people who are most likely to uphold particular sexual standards

It also tends to be religious people who prevent children accessing the knowledge they need to live a healthy life, sadly at the moment your posts seem to put you very much in that camp, rather than anything else.

If it wasn't for religious people preventing good RSE teaching in the past, the new curriculum would not have been necessary - all good schools were of course already teaching much the same, but the failure of some under pressure from religious dogma certainly made it necessary to happen, and I'm very pleased. Children should be freed from religious pressure on what they learn.

I am not aware of how Christian people prevent children accessing the knowledge they need to lead a healthy lifestyle. Nor am I aware of any religious pressure in education. But I see many other forms of indoctrination. Perhaps you could let me know what you have in mind?

The facts are that Comprehensive Sexuality Education has had detrimental effects on rates of teenage sexually transmitted disease, age of first sexual debut and teenage pregnancy as the following information shows. Our RSE providers constantly try to persuade us otherwise but this is on the basis of very shonky so called 'research'. And they have a vested interest.
www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD006417.pub3/full
www.comprehensivesexualityeducation.org/cse-report/

At the moment we have increased rates of anal sex amongst the youngest (adult) generation. This correlates with increased attention given to anal sex in schools. www.natsal.ac.uk/media/2102/natsal-infographic.pdf

We also have increased rates of child on child sexual abuse.www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41504571

And hugely increased rates of gender dysphoria among young children which coincides with teaching young children things like the 'gender unicorn' etc.

I am trying to do something about it by raising awareness.

[quote zaphodbeeble]It absolutely is about your religious views and do claim to support feminism when you’ve previously linked a post from Belinda Brown
conservativewoman.co.uk/belinda-brown-anti-feminist-agenda/[/quote]
It is not about my religious views. It is about the well being of future generations of young people.

I do not claim to support feminism. As far as I am concerned feminism is one of the most pernicious and damaging movements in modern times. But I am perfectly capable of recognising when feminists do excellent work and it is feminists who are currently doing brilliant work highlighting the problems being created in our schools by the trans lobby.

It would be nice if people who were anti-Christian were still able to recognise when Christians were doing valuable work to highlight serious flaws in RSE resources.

Nor am I aware of any religious pressure in education

Are you even in the UK? You know large numbers of schools are denominational? As for evidence of pressure placed on schools by religious organisations, can I point to a post by @koteczek referencing various christian websites to put pressure on schools about how they teach RSE?

Incidently, I said religious people - it is not solely a christian problem of deny children an education on what they require for good health.

I am advocating putting pressure on schools about how they teach RSE but this is because I am concerned about the impact which RSE has on our young people.
You still haven't explained how Christians have prevented children accessing RSE education which will be good for their health. The RSE info coming from many of our providers makes anal sex sound almost like a good thing (its not its really unhealthy) and advocates sex for pleasure which could leave young people in a series of unfulfilling and soul destroying relationships.

I work for a company that provide rse training. I am well aware it’s more than just periods however the examples you have given of what comes under the rse curriculum are just totally untrue!!!!

And children aren’t being ‘encouraged’ to masturbate. They are being assured that if they choose to then it’s perfectly normal and nothing to be ashamed of!!!!

What is wrong is saying sex is for pleasure? If it’s not, then that’s when there’s serious concern! Why would anyone want unpleasurable consensual sex?

www.secularism.org.uk/news/2018/05/most-faith-schools-distorting-sex-education-nss-study-finds

I think sex is for bonding people and strengthening a relationship. I think where the object of sex is pleasure it teaches us to 'use' the other person for this end and results in the commodification of relationships. I also think that where the aim of sex is pleasure it happens to not be nearly as pleasurable as where the aim of sex is to strengthen the bond and show your love for (ideally!) your spouse.

Do you believe we should teach abstinence op ?

This is all sounding a bit bonkers op! Thank goodness children are being taught RSE in schools and being taught in an open, honest, upfront and non religious way!

I think we should teach young people that when they have sex with others actual physiological things happen which bond them to one another. This means that you can end up getting really attached to someone who you might not in fact be that well suited to. This bonding, which has been shown to happen also means that it is particularly distressing when you break up. Also there seems to be evidence that the fewer sexual partners you have had when you get married the more likely your marriage is to survive. And that people who have had fewer sexual partners actually enjoy sex more. We should teach all of this in a factual way backed up with data.

Similarly I think we should teach children how masturbation and pornography can be addictive so they need to keep an eye on that. And we should talk to them, particularly to the boys about how the more you masturbate to pornography the more difficult you find obtaining sexual satisfaction with a real person. So if they want to go out into the world and really enjoy sex avoid porn. Even excessive masturbation can make it more difficult for you to orgasm with a partner rather than with yourself. Yeah so these are some of the useful things we could be teaching our children. I can think of other things too.
And quite frankly I can't think of anything more likely to destroy sexual pleasure than having it taught to you by your teachers at school. And that is what we do. Insane.

We don’t teach sexual pleasure.