Unhappy about primary schools re opening

[Bitterglitter]

Is anyone else unhappy about primary schools being re opened as part of the lockdown easing measures?

I keep thinking about the kids who have underlying health conditions that aren't yet diagnosed.

My DS1 (5) was diagnosed with a benign heart murmur in feb this year. It was only picked up because he has a lot of follow up Paediatric appointments because he was premature. I don't even know if it's an issue as far as covid19 goes. But what about all the kids out there with undiagnosed asthma, diabetes etc?

Primary age kids can't and won't maintain social distance. And they will act as super spreaders too. Doesn't matter how well their parents maintain distance if all these kids are mixing it up in schools.

It just seems crazy when so many parents can continue working from home. Am I being hysterical?

I don't 'need' to do it as we've been managing okay so far (albeit with no real school work being done) but the DC are missing school so deeply now that I'm worried for their mental health.

But sending them back now doesn’t mean they’ll be with their friends? They’re likely to be in a mixed group of children, supervised while they do home learning. It’s childcare not school as they know it.

But sending them back now doesn’t mean they’ll be with their friends? They’re likely to be in a mixed group of children, supervised while they do home learning. It’s childcare not school as they know it.

I realise this, but they are used to doing holiday club at their school which runs along these lines. They're not so bothered about specific friends (both boys if that makes any difference) but they're missing other children generally, the building, the routine, and I think most of all other adults who they would deem to have some authority, even if not their own teachers.

I think employers will be a lot less flexible with working around homeschooling if there is the option of going to school, aside from homes where someone is shielding.

I will be sending mine back, and I don't say that lightly as I took them out the week before it was closed. But the panic attacks that my 7yo has sadly developed and the negative effects on my bright and bubbly 15yo mean that we will take the risk.

It would be interesting to know what the spread in schools is actually like. Both of my children's schools had a couple of confirmed cases before the closure (staff and kids). In both cases, the affected people were in school while almost certainly contagious (spent a day or two in school feeling not great but not with Covid symptoms) before self isolating once classic symptoms developed. But as far as we know, there was no wider spread in either school. Does this mean it doesn't necessarily spread all that easily? Or that lots of people got it but were asymptomatic? Who knows.

But sending them back now doesn’t mean they’ll be with their friends? They’re likely to be in a mixed group of children, supervised while they do home learning. It’s childcare not school as they know it

Particularly for only children, being with some children is better than being with none at all, even if they’re not their particular friends. Mine are young (6 and 4), they’re happy to play with anyone.

That is not what the firm said when interviewed on TV. They said million of doses of a vaccine should be available by the end of the year.

They haven’t even invented a vaccine yet. They may never invent a workable vaccine than creates immunity.

That is not what the firm said when interviewed on TV. They said million of doses of a vaccine should be available by the end of the year.
that is incredibly optimistic (we don’t hsve a vaccine yet, so it needs to be discovered, efficacy tested, safety tested and mass manufactured). Also “available “ doesn’t mean distributed and given to people.
plus, the population of scotland alone (for example ) is over 5 million. 1 million is unfortunately nothing

The vaccine is being tried out on volunteers at the moment. It has already been tested on animals. There is a vaccine, they are doing the testing at the moment.

And yes most children who get it are either asymptomatic or have incredibly mild symptoms. For example a slight temperature for a day that is easily missed. The theory is that earlier studies missed these kids so didn't realise that children do catch it at the same rate as adults.

@myself2020 Millions, not million sorry.

The vaccine is being tried out on volunteers at the moment. It has already been tested on animals. There is a vaccine, they are doing the testing at the moment.

There isn’t a proven vaccine.

You don't have to send them back. My kids will be developing a temperature. I pulled them out of school before the schools closed as well. There was all kind of scaremongering on here that my kids would lose their school places. Nothing happened.

So presumably when schools have returned and you are still waiting for a vaccine, you will be homeschooling. I mean properly homeschooling, not what's happening at the moment where parents are just supervising their children completing work set by their teachers, because teachers planning and delivering lessons for children in school will not also be providing work for those being kept at home for the next year or more.

They are testing the vaccine at the moment at Oxford and will know by June/July if successful.

Because it is a tweaked vaccine a lot of the work was done already so they have already set up a manufacturing programme if successful

www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/30/astrazeneca-partners-with-oxford-university-to-produce-covid-19-vaccine

News are just saying lots of people who are really ill with this end up with kidney problems.

my understanding is that only 3 years will be going back and then only if the stats show it is as safe as possible, so basically the school needs to have methods to distance the 20% of the kids who will be going back initially. I'm expecting to only have 1 out of my 3 currently at home go back, he's in year 5. we're lucky, no health conditions, I might feel differently if we did. yes the 'new normal' going to be a sh*tstorm but what can you do?

I just wonder how they will manage school transport I guess we will get all these answers soon.

@andantino but you wouldn't necessarily know if the school was closed. Unless you have contact with each and every family in your kids school. My DS developed a cough a week after schools closed. But I didn't report it to school so they wouldn't know.

@devlesko

*It's not rocket science.
if you need the childcare then send them in to be the guinea pigs.
those more concerned with living can keep theirs at home.
We don't know if the second wave will kill the kids rather than adults it happened with Spanish flu.
Send your kids in, your jobs are more important. *

You're fucking foul, you know that?

If people lose their jobs, how the fuck are they supposed to feed and house their children?

But you don't give a shit about that up there on your high horse. Not everyone can be fancy travelling theatre folk. Some up us have real jobs and mouths to feed.

I would ignore this thread - journalists looking to spread a rumour for a reaction

I would ignore this thread - journalists looking to spread a rumour for a reaction

This is good advice, then you can just deal with it on Thursday when it’s announced instead.

theeigth

Erm, what makes you think I don't have bills to pay, and mouths to feed, all my income has gone, furloughed, then UC, what a stupid fuckin comment. I bet you've more money than me, and fancier.
I just wouldn't have used any of my children as an experiment.
But hat makes me foul, right.

@Devlesko either way its an experiment is it not though. Because there is not easy short term answer (and by short term I do mean this year) we are playing roulette with what is worse sending them back or keeping them away. There is no easy solution to this that isnt going to carry some element of risk.

It is like some awful experiment where we are seeing which way will be best because no one actually knows what could cause the worst long term damage to any of this.

I would like an antibody test to confirm that DD and myself (and I guess DH and DS) have had it

I’m not entirely sure I understand your concerns. A benign condition..is just that..benign. I have a benign heart condition, as do many others; that wasn’t picked up until my 40s...but it doesn’t render me vulnerable in any way.
There are two categories of vulnerability, the 2nd group includes people with milder susceptibility, diabetes, asthma, elderly etc... the first group is for those people who are extremely vulnerable, with serious known conditions...and they would be shielding anyway. Our child is in this group, and we will follow whatever advice is recommended at that time.

If they have to go back, then they have too or the fines will start. It's either that or home ed.

I dont want to get wrong side of the EWO and I cant handle hone ed. So theres not much choice in reality.

Send them back once schools open or de register.

I'm undecided. I teach a mixed 5/6 class and feel so much for the Year 6 children - we tried our best on the last day with a hurriedly put together meal from a local supplier (lovely local fish and chip shop - my shout) and we dragged T shirts out of the uniform box to be signed by the few who were left. So not how it should be. I want to finish the year off properly.

BUT I'm shielding - asthma. Sure I might be OK but a couple of friends have recently been hit pretty hard by this. Love my class. Not enough to die for and leave my children orphaned. Do I come out of shielding to do my social bit? Heart says yes, head (and family) say no.