Ds can’t/ won’t read

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Ds is 6 (year 2 but August born) and can’t read. He’s on stage 3 books (Oxford) and sounds out words but often still can’t recognise them. He’s very reluctant to read at home and often refuses as he “can’t do it”. He won’t even try to sound out words on signs/ in games anymore. His hearing is ok, according to the screening, but he can’t tell the difference between end and start sounds in words day to day (eg 14 and 40). He had speech therapy for the frequent mispronunciation of start/ end sounds and was able to recognise and replicate in sessions. He’s discharged now: partly due to improvement, partly because he hated it and stopped trying/ engaging.
How do I help him when he won’t try at home? Apparently he tries hard in school and is a hard worker and really conscientious, but at home he refuses. I have a meeting with his teacher next week at my request. What do I ask for? He already gets extra small group support.

Ahhh, I guessed it would be Masha’s site! Death by lists, as ever. Bless her. Completely and utterly barking though!

Memorising whole words is inefficient

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Just when you think it's safe up she pops Feenie! 🙄

None of what you have written sounds like a visual thing so I would either explore the auditory aspects or bide your time and wait for him to mature. My dc do have visual disturbances and for them filters help a little, glasses help much more. They however have other issues- photophobia, headaches, spatial problems etc. Where's Wally gives them headaches.

Missing the end of words is very common with glue ear. Both my DD and myself had glue ear and both of us have visual processing disorders. We both lip read which hid our glue ear and our bright which hid our visual processing.
As someone who went through this myself and with my daughter.
I would first get a proper hearing test not just screening I used to call hands handles because I didn't know how the word ended and my daughter named pigeons widgeons and the there were ambilances rather than ambulances.
If the hearing test is clear then investigate processing disorders.

I know, mrz!!!

@feenie my DS former head of KS1 appeared astounded by the idea that DS could learn the common sounds in he, she, me, we etc.

Should Not Be Teaching!

Still chuckling at being 'listed' by stealth after years of escaping - nice one, Masha!

I taught allmofmy children letter sou ds ar 2-3 and bkends at 3-4. I knew they would be in a large vlass so taught them all to read before they started school. I was told my dd reading age was 8.2 when she started school and I thought school would be pleased ax obe less child to teach to read but no, I got told off for making her different as she was reading Heidi at home and given books with no words in at school which she thought ere odd and she told her teacher the auther had forgotten the words in the book. In Year1 she got a teacher who encouraged her reading and ket her progress at her own speed. After seeing my friends children struggle to learn to read at same school I went ahead and taught my other two to read in same way although neither of boys got to more than 7.6 years when they started school. They are all grown up now but all 3 of my children are all avid readers as adults. They have always enjoyed reading so I am not a bit sorry I went ahead and taught them myself. Now I am teaching my grandson his sounds and blends. We nake it a game and just 5 mins at a tine. I would advise get dyslexia test and work with child at home 5 mins every day.

Feenie: I guessed it would be Masha’s site!
Mrz: Just when you think it's safe up she pops Feenie!
Why does Masha's site make you feel not 'safe'?

The site doesn't make anyone feel unsafe as it's fantasy

Norestformrz: The site doesn't make anyone feel unsafe as it's fantasy - This doesn't explain why you wrote what you did.
I think englishspellingproblems.blogspot.co.uk shows and explains how much learning to read and write English involves, and why acc. to the reading help charity Coram Beanstalk 170 K (out of roughly 500 K) are still leaving primary school unable to read to the appropriate level and why some of the strategies that some parents on this thread have found to work better than just phonics.
You were dismissive of the suggestion by caringcarer
Start by making reading fun. Play word recognition game using flash cards. Look at book find some of the words on fist two or three pages and go through with child before they read book. Once they can recognise these words go to book to read. It will be less daunting for them.
Other parents on this thread have found the same to work for their struggling readers too. The site might help them to understand why.

Yes I'm dismissive of ineffective strategies

How exactly does it help, masha? It's a list of hundreds of words organised in the most unhelpful way possible, alongside the premise where the writer shrugs their shoulders and says spelling is just too difficult whilst making no attempt to actually teach any spelling whatsoever.

https://linguisticphonics.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/first-100-high-frequency-words-letters-and-sounds.pdf

I think the reason that many children leave primary without being able to read is because learning to read finishes in year 2

We found that apart from a 10 minute reading session each day with the TA there was nothing to help DS
He still had to do the homework (which was me answering the questions and him tracing the answers in his book)
It took hours and if he didn’t do the homework he was kept in at playtime to do the homework. This meant he was sat looking at a blank piece of paper each day.

He never really recovered from that year and was put off learning and school.

When I was at school many years ago we were told primary school was about making sure everyone had the basics (being able to read, write, being able to add up, take away, divide and multiply and do up to their 12 times table)
Secondary school was to work on expanding knowledge

With the shake up in education if you don’t get the basics by year 2 then you are left behind

Mrz
The link you gave doesn't work.

I agree that in many schools reading is something they do rather than something they teach once children are in KS2 but I think this is changing.

We must remember that the Ciram Beanstalk figure is based only on SATs results and I defy anyone to listen to two children read and tell me which child scored 100 (so meeting the expected standard) and which scored 99 (so being labelled by Coram Beanstalk as unable to read). It's a great headline but extremely misleading.

It does for me

Feenie, You asked How exactly does it help?
The blogs show what learning to read and write English involves, and which spellings are most responsible for making it roughly 10 times harder and slower than with the best Latin-based systems.
One - literacyproblems.blogspot.com/2017/12/reading-problems.html does it just for reading.
Another explains the whole system and its learning and teaching problems englishspellingproblems.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-english-spelling-system.html
When I was learning and teaching languages (incl. English), I found it really helpful to know what the tricky bits were. I have met lots of teachers, and parents even more, who don't have a clue. Mrz has often said that English spelling is complex. The blogs show and explain what the complexities are. You obviously know them, but some parents might find them helpful. Others can just ignore them.
My son (unlike daughter) learned to read and spell excruciatingly slowly. I found out which words were tricky for him by noting them down. I think I might have been able to help him more efficiently if I had know beforehand which ones they would be and why.

"The blogs show what learning to read and write English involves," no it doesn't. It shows the author doesn't understand the relationship between spoken and written language

Mrz
I got into the site by using just linguisticphonics.wordpress.com Not sure why you gave the link.

The first post I read claimed wrongly that the 44 sounds have 175 spellings. The real number is 205 literacyproblems.blogspot.com/2019/11/english-spelling.html

My link was to the first 100 words sorted by sounds as per screen shot