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How often do you expect your YR1 child to be read with?

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Missstickinthemud · 04/10/2017 09:52

Hi, I was just wondering how often someone reads with your YR1 child one on one in school? Is it once a week or less than that?

Also, if you are expected to keep a joint reading record with the school (the kind that you fill in every time you read with your child at home), how often does your child's teacher/teaching assistant put a comment in the book?

Thank you

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CountessofGrantham · 09/10/2017 20:25

At least 4 times a week. Once with teacher, at least once with TA, I go in once a week and a friend goes in too. There may be other parent volunteers, I don’t know.

poppl · 09/10/2017 20:44

Every day. I did the same as a EY teacher - 20 kids every day.

I find it amazing and depressing that some schools hear the kids read once a week or less.

poppl · 09/10/2017 20:46

Plenty of parents can't or won't teach a child to read at home. Why should those children then stagnate in their reading?

I am mystified as to how a teacher who barely hears a child read ever has any idea of how the child is doing or whether they are reading the correct level books!

user789653241 · 09/10/2017 20:52

I am curious, poppl, how long do you spend listening to each child every day? What is the difference in outcome of children compared to who were not listened often? How do you manage to do all the other things if you spend quite a big chunk of the day just listening to the child read?

MrsMerryFestive · 09/10/2017 20:52

Every day with a teacher, probably about 5 minutes I reckon. And the same with us each evening.

poppl · 09/10/2017 21:00

I use "dead time". I have to supervise lunch in the classroom, so I get through quite a few then. More in the half hour before school. Sometimes at the end of an art lesson or similar if a child has finished.

If I'm pushed for time I do two at once. It's just to check where they're up to and correct any frequent issues.

It's perfectly possible. I've no idea if outcomes with non read to kids are different because I've always read with them.

Wait4nothing · 09/10/2017 21:03

I don’t understand how people expect a daily read with a teacher - over 2 hours for an average class. So no pm teaching then - just reading - what is everyone else doing?
I teach and I teach all day. I fit an extra reader in my (unpaid) lunch break but I couldn’t do 30!

DrMadelineMaxwell · 09/10/2017 21:14

30 mins for my guided reading group to read with me. Far more valuable than individual reading in terms of teaching strategies efficiently.

Then a 1-2-1 read with the TA once a week.

Readers with lower reading ages read more regularly.

StrumpersPlunkett · 09/10/2017 21:15

In our class of 30 we have a list of 8 daily readers these are our PP children
10 = 3x a week
10 =2 x a week
And 2 v autistic with 1-1 who have a separate curriculum

On top of this they each have a guided reading session with the class teacher.

At least half of our children's book folders are not opened at home - this is evident from urgent letters and party invitations no being seen.

We have a parent helper that comes in each Monday afternoon and aside from that all reading gets done around the maths literacy topic assemblies and PE that takes place in the mornings. There is no ta provision in the afternoons. (Aside from 1:1's)

StrumpersPlunkett · 09/10/2017 21:17

Oh yes with phonics groups and other intervention groups in the morning as well
3 hours goes v v quickly !!

Eilasor · 09/10/2017 21:19

Twice a week to both questions.

ceeveebee · 09/10/2017 21:20

Once a week for my DC but I know there are children who read daily and others 2-3 times a week, I assume they are focussing on the children who might need more help.

user789653241 · 09/10/2017 21:25

Thank you, poppl. I can see that may be perfectly possible, but is it really necessary? As sir has mentioned, if the child need daily support, quite understandable. But do you really need to do it with mostly every one, every day, especially sacrificing your own break time?

poppl · 09/10/2017 21:31

Probably not every single one every day, which is why I sometimes do two at once.

It's policy in my school, and I've always done it.

I'd say twice or three times a week is the absolute minimum though.

Feenie · 09/10/2017 21:31

I have to supervise lunch in the classroom, so I get through quite a few then.

Not a state school then, presumably?

poppl · 09/10/2017 21:32

No. Was the question directed at state schools only? Maybe I misread.

BubblesBuddy · 09/10/2017 21:33

All Teachers do work in their own time - it just depends what work you choose to do. poppl has only 20 children in the class and I suspect high parental expectations. Reading is what she chooses to do but she has 1/3 less children than most.

Feenie · 09/10/2017 21:37

It wasn't the reading I raised my eyebrows at - we all do that. It was the lunch supervision

bangingmyheadoffabrickwall · 09/10/2017 21:38

I'm a Y1 teacher. We hear each child read twice a week in guided group sessions. They take home readers home and can change those whenever they like - daily, few times a week to weekly.

My own DS has a new book everyday regardless if he's read it at home or not. Their 'home reader' is also their school reader and suspect there is someone who reads with them everyday because there's a comment in his book by whoever changes it.

24 children in his class.

user789653241 · 09/10/2017 21:38

Oh, sorry, poppl. I didn't realise it was private school. Then expectation etc. from parents must be totally different.

RaisinSmuggler · 09/10/2017 21:43

My kids school expects you to read with them everyday at home. They send snotty letters home if you don't. Fudging nightmare if you have more than one kid. Also, they only seem to read with them in class when we don't at home.

domesticslattern · 09/10/2017 21:48

Never. She reads as part of a group but never 1-2-1. The reading diary hasn't been written in since March this year (reception) though the diary goes faithfully to and fro every day in the school bag. We had had one RML reading book sent home this term and it was one she had already had in reception. Hmm
To be honest, following budget cuts the school has lost its afternoon TAs so there is one teacher trying to manage a class of 30 including at least four children with SEN (no 1-2-1 assistance for those kids). The classroom is pretty chaotic as far as I can tell. They will know that we read with DD at home and I see it as my duty to teach her to read just as I did with her older sister.
Fortunately we have a house full of books and enough time for a bedtime story each night from an adult so I am pretty sure she will get there.
It's what happens when schools aren't funded properly.

MrsMerryFestive · 09/10/2017 23:07

I would bet large sums of money that my DS wouldn't be reading as well as he is without daily reading at school.

Our school has about 16 per class with a teacher and ta in each. They do 5 mins with each child every day. Yes, it's private so appreciate state schools can't achieve this. But surely at least twice a week is achievable?!

My DS is confidently flowing through ORT Level 5. Not breaking any world records, but, for him, I know it's miles off where he'd be if he wasn't wasn't regularly reading to his teacher.

BubblesBuddy · 09/10/2017 23:22

Yes, amazing how all those state educated children just never pass muster at reading! Funny how some actually manage to get to Oxbridge after such a poor start! Teachers listening to children read every day is not necessary. What advantage does that give and how do you know he wouldn't be flying in a good state school? You have no way to accurately compare. A parent reading with a child daily is necessary. Completing the reading log is necessary. Doing extra reading is great with your child, especially reading to them and fostering a love of reading. This is what gets children reading confidently. Not a few minutes with a teacher.

MrsMerryFestive · 09/10/2017 23:35

I don't need a direct comparison. I know my child.

And my other DC hadn't spent a single day at school before becoming a free reader so I'm perfectly aware of what a home with books and proactive parents can achieve.

But what about the other children? The children whose parents aren't confident readers themselves? The children whose homes aren't filled with books? And the parents who don't think it's their job to teach their children to read?

My friend volunteers her time to listen to children read at a local junior school. Most of the children come from low socioeconomic homes. The reading logs aren't filled in by anyone - parent or teachers - from one week to the next. She sees the children once every 3 weeks and often they've not picked up a book inbetween. These are children in years 3 and 4 struggling to get through what my perfectly average Yr 1 DS is reading.

How are these children reading their maths or science questions?

Reading must be a priority in state schools. Because without words there is nothing else.

It's a very simple equation. If you do something often, your ability progresses. Riding a bike, playing the piano, reading. Anything.

So of course the more 1-2-1 reading the better.