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Year 2 report - "Signifcantly above expectations"

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Goodluckjonathan76 · 18/07/2017 11:30

Going through DS2's school report. The categories are: Working below, working towards, working within, working above, working significantly above. DS2 is a bright boy and in the top set for maths and english. He got mostly "working above" , two "working within" and "working significantly above" (spelling). Just wondering how hard it is to get "significantly above" - it feels like they have introduced another level to make it harder for the kids to feel like they are doing well.

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user789653241 · 18/07/2017 11:51

Well different school use different grading system. So it's difficult to say. But I think you can say that your ds is working at the significantly better than his peers/expected level for end of yr2.

Goodluckjonathan76 · 18/07/2017 12:16

Thanks Irvine. Just wondering if other school's have the "significantly above" category or if it's just ours and, if so, what purpose it serves. Just seems to make it harder to do well.

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user789653241 · 18/07/2017 13:18

No, my ds's school doesn't have "significantly above" category, only working at greater depth.
Yes, I guess it make it harder to do well, but it makes it easier to separate children who is just above average, and who is way above average, who needs more detailed differentiation, so either way, I guess it's good for the kids sake.

Feenie · 18/07/2017 19:06

At the end of KS1, your school has a statutory duty (if it's a state school) to report your child's end of KS1 using the grades they reported to the LEA - Greater Depth, Working At, Working Towards (Pre Key Stage and Below for children below KS1.)

There should be a separate report. If not, they aren't meeting statutory requirements.

pinkhorse · 18/07/2017 19:09

Mine just has greater depth

whatsitallabout1 · 18/07/2017 21:08

Our school uses 5 levels in internal monitoring systems so progress can be better reviewed, but KS1 results are reported to parents using the 3 level guidelines. I'm a governor - it was all so much clearer when we had levels!

mrz · 18/07/2017 21:12

We use six it's utter nonsense created for external observers not for the benefit of the child. But Ofsted and EDPs love nice graphs.

dungandbother · 18/07/2017 23:39

I'm baffled by this.
My son is expected. Just that. Working at expected. He met the curriculum in February according to teacher at parents eve.

His standardised scores are R 110 and M 110.

Would this be greater depth in 'other' schools?

mrz · 19/07/2017 05:32

No the test scores are only one piece of evidence. Greater Depth is determined by the criteria of the Interim Framework.

user789653241 · 19/07/2017 06:11

This link tells you what sort of things you need to be able to do to get GDS for maths. Look at right hand side, working with greater depth.

www.ncetm.org.uk/public/files/25627338/Mastery_Assessment_Yr2_Low_Res.pdf

user789653241 · 19/07/2017 06:27

I don't think you can get GDS just because you are able to do something correctly/master the skill.
You need to show you know the concept inside out, can use your knowledge to solve more complex questions, and to give reasoning to your answer.

user789653241 · 19/07/2017 06:36

mrz, your link goes to "page not found"!

user789653241 · 19/07/2017 06:45

dung, I just read your post on G&T board. You say that your ds moved school and new teacher told you,
" she can't evidence any more as he hasn't been there long enough."
That tells you why, she just doesn't have enough evidence to award him GDS.

user1492287253 · 19/07/2017 06:53

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exceeding

you are looking for stuff to worry about. how you can find a downside to being told your child is significantly exceeding is quite something

user1476527701 · 19/07/2017 08:08

At that age do ppl actually tell the kids what they got (I don't) so why us it a problem if they don't get the top one

sirfredfredgeorge · 19/07/2017 08:50

UserCrazyNumbers I would not hide my report from my child at any age, so yes, I would expect them to know, it's their education, they need to learn to care about it. Seeing reports is part of that learning.

What would you do if your child asked to read the report?

mrz · 19/07/2017 19:30

I'm with user... it's a report to parents not the child. I'm not sure anyone really believes that SATs results are helpful to anyone least of all the child

user789653241 · 19/07/2017 21:46

Well, our school has section for children to sign and comment(optional)
as well as parents on the report return slip, so school clearly expect children to read it.

Goodluckjonathan76 · 19/07/2017 22:43

DS2 doesn't even know he took SATs! All I said to him is that he has a very good report, well done etc. I am still curious though what the difference is between exceeding and significantly exceeding and why they bother having this differentiation. Not sure the school had it previously.

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shadylane · 23/07/2017 18:09

Our school has the same categories.

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 23/07/2017 18:11

We only have WT, WA and GD.

Goodluckjonathan76 · 24/07/2017 16:27

Shadylane, does your school also have "significantly above"? If so, do you know how frequently this is used? Trying to work out if you need to be "significantly above" to be in the top-set or if "working above" will do. The school puts them in quite formal sets in year 3 which it seems very difficult to move between. I think he is currently on the top table for both English and Maths but worried he is going to get knocked down if all the others in his group are "significantly above." Also wondering if I have overestimated his abilities - I thought he was well ahead in both subjects but only based on my own knowledge and compared with his brother who is in a middle set and got mostly working within and a coupl of working above.

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