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user1499673395 · 10/07/2017 09:34

Hello all,
I am very new to posting and on the site, I do often do google searching and always come on here for advice, tips etc.
So, about me, I have one daughter she is the youngest in her class. So she is getting ready this September for 'big school' is she ready, yes she is, are her parents - hell no!
Last year we were talked to about SAT's I am very lucky to have lots of friends that are teachers, tutors etc so I do know how unimportant the SAT's are in terms of where they take your child their words not mine...so I do feel very strongly about this issue.

My daughter is bright, she tries her best in everything she does and boy did she try her best in these SAT's.
On parents evening we were told she aced at everything apart from Maths so we got a tutor who is a maths professor and was wonderful, and he did tell us that SAT's this year would be harder.
My daughter did not pass the mark, and we decided to tell her different.
We felt that she is 10 and due to the fact that they bare absolutely no importance on where she will be at her time doing her GCSE's we gave it a lot of thought and decided to tell her that she passed anyway.....we just feel that telling her she failed would really knock her and we understand that a child has to have disappointments in life but in this case, we felt that they were not important.....
I am also glad that I did, her little face of relief, stating that she had been 'really worried' really chocked me up if I am honest.
A 10 year old child - really worried about it all, and its not because of us, I can tell you that although she is our only child we are quite cool parents actually.
This is our reason for telling her that she has passed. The first one being that SAT marks really do not matter at all, that they are for the school.
Imagine us telling her that she didnt pass? Imagine all that hard work we have put in, working on making our girl a strong, caring person who excels at music, English and more importantly has the most beautiful manners you have ever seen....
Imagine the confidence knocked right out of her just because she didn't quite get a couple of marks???
She has gone to school today, knowing that she worked hard, because she did, because we even paid for tutors and she literally missed it by a few points. I am glad that we decided to tell her that, a 10 year old should not be worrying about exams, although her worry does tell me how hard she was working, because she was tutored twice per week and had extra lessons - asked for by her by the way, we did not force this at all - that is how we know she worked hard.
A few of my school yard parents were quite disappointed in their child for 'failing' that it was the schools fault or some of them bragging at how wonderful their child is that they will go into top sets etc.... whilst I applaud mums and dads in the yard that I have become very fond of them over the years, I cant help but wonder the pressure they have put on their child.
Gifts such as new dog, holidays for passing them and allowing the bragging on the yard to commence this morning, when I was asked, I just said my daughter passed and she is happy.....
When my daughter was 5, she came with me on my graduation as I got my law degree, it was the hardest thing I have ever done since she was a baby all she has ever known is me studying and having a baby starting university was very hard....but what it has done is show her how to apply herself and so I decided to tell her how fabulous she is and how hard she has worked as she doesnt need her confidence knocked for nothing and now what will happen is she will apply herself in the future still!!!!
To see my little girl this morning happy, non the wiser, no confidence destroyed because she has failed has been the correct decision.....
I know some people would disagree but honestly I cant tell you how unimportant they are compared to what is really important like manners, playing out, friendships, family and knowing that your child did her best....that was good enough for me!

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jamdonut · 10/07/2017 17:51

I think our year 6 teachers tell the children their scores, individually.
I think she is bound to find out one way or another.

I can't agree with how you've gone about this. You've given your daughter false expectations. How is she going to cope when she gets as far as her GCSE's ?
She may well " apply herself" in the future, but that still doesn't guarantee any future "passes".

knobblykneesandturnedouttoes · 10/07/2017 20:21

I'm really shocked that any parent would think this was a good idea. How will she ever learn to handle disappointment. You should've been proud of her for working hard, and you should've been proud of her 98 points, and told her so. Eventually she will find out. And she will think you were disappointed in her score.

Rainybo · 10/07/2017 20:32

YABU. You shouldn't have lied to her. And although she may be young for her year, don't use that as an overall rationale for the result. You sound very pushy.

PrincessHairyMclary · 10/07/2017 20:40

As others have said you have been Very unreasonable I. Lying to your daughter, SATS do matter and at secondary school not only do we use them to set children we use them to predict their future grades and to decide whether to accept them on to certain GCSE options which require a strong English and Maths background. (triple science etc)

PerspicaciaTick · 10/07/2017 20:51

SATS aren't important - so you get her a maths tutor (which is absolutely unheard of in my DCs school).

And despite being tutored, you are still disappointed in her result. So disappointed that you decide to lie to her and protect her from the terrible truth that...well, what exactly? that she doesn't find Maths easy? She probably already knows that.

And now you are going to send her off to secondary school with the myth that her Maths is fine, nothing to worry about, she's doing fine.

Are you planning to tutor her in Maths for the foreseeable future? Are you hoping that she will just get magically better? Are you going to carry on lying to her when she doesn't make the top sets in secondary school?

It seems a bizarre approach to parenting.

AshesEmbersFlames · 10/07/2017 21:01

I find it odd that you talk, on the one hand about how little SATs matter. And then on the other, you talk about your DD FAILING. She didn't fail - because it is not a pass/fail exam. She missed the arbitrary 'expected' standard by a couple of points, that's all. Why you didn't simply explain this to your DD while stating that you were very proud of her for trying so hard is beyond me.

You may get away with your lie. But equally, your DD may very find out. And then she'll be doubly upset because she 'failed' AND because you lied to her.

As much as we would like to, we cannot shield our children from unpleasant things. We can only teach them resilience.

bloated1977 · 10/07/2017 23:07

There is no pass or fail...

You should have just told her the truth. I'd rather just be honest with my child. You're sending her the wrong message.

Mrskeats · 10/07/2017 23:11

And what if the teacher comments that she was so close to passing etc?
Terrible idea to lie

pieceofpurplesky · 10/07/2017 23:18

You really should have just praised her for her amazing progress.
You are far too competitive and see that your own daughter has failed. Terrible

VinIsGroot · 11/07/2017 04:09

So DD is not great at maths but excelled at all her other subjects.. why not focus on that?
My DS will do his SATS next year. He has ASD. Maths, history, science...he is amazing .... Comprehension..... He hates. He can't think in that way...he can't pull text our and decipher the meaning.
I don't be getting him a tutor .... Nor will I make a fuss.... This is life! We are all good at some things but not others. In his report he got awful marks in art and design! We laughed and said .... Oh well never been a strong point!
My DS is 21st August kid...so the youngest in the year.
Lying to him would not work! At some stage DD will want to read that report .... She'll feel awful when she realises you were so embarrassed!
Even if she did go off with a smile on her face today .... It's because you lied!
OP, you need to stop putting s bubble around DC and start preparing them for high school! ....and life!!

user1484655514 · 11/07/2017 07:40

I totally understand why you told her she "passed" ( I assume she didn't get the magic 100). I also had a tutor for my daughter through year 6 not for sats or the 11plus but because my daughter thought she was rubbish at maths and cried when we said she didn't need one, so we got a great woman who told my daughter she was good at maths and taught her in a way that made sense to her. Don't know why people are kicking you for getting a tutor and doing the best for your daughter. My daughter did very well in her sats but I think in your situation I might have done the same, I hope she loves secondary school and going in with a positive attitude and she goes far xx

birdlover1977 · 11/07/2017 10:22

I really don't think you should have lied to your DD. My son is also one of the youngest in his year. He has high functioning autism and has really struggled with Year 6 and all the SATS practice. He worked as hard as he could to do as well as he could in the SATS. After the tests I gave him a lovely treat for working so hard and doing his best - we made a real fuss of him and told him that the scores he gets really don't matter because we will still be proud of him.

He got his SATS results of Friday and did much better than we expected - 113 in Reading, 103 in SPAG and 98 in Maths. He also didn't achieve the expected standard in writing. We told him his results and also told him once again how proud we are of him. We didn't have any rewards for results because we already did that after the actual SATS and this showed him that the results really didn't matter - we were proud of him doing his best - not the scores he got.

He did ask what would happen now he didn't "pass" maths and writing and I just said that he will get more support in Secondary and we will continue to help him at home. He was happy with this answer. He was proud of himself.

Lurkedforever1 · 11/07/2017 12:30

I don't see that anyone is criticising the idea of a tutor. Just pointing out that telling your dc sats aren't important and then tutoring for them is contradictory.

Witchend · 11/07/2017 13:40

I think there's a very high chance she will find out. Either from school now or secondary.
When she does find out she will feel far worse about it than if you'd said "you did your best, and I'm proud of you, you got 98"
Because she will know that not only did she not pass, but you are so ashamed of it that you lied about it. You won't be able to get out of it by saying you're proud of how well she did, or you don't think Sats matter because your actions have shown otherwise.
She may well have an awkward conversation at school where she's saying "But dad said I got 100".

Underthemoonlight · 11/07/2017 13:52

She's only going to struggle when she gets to seniors school though isn't she especially if she thinks she's done good. I speak as someone who is dyslexic but good with English enough to get by but boy did I struggle with maths. I wish I had a tutor throughout school to help me but my parents couldn't afford it. My DS is lucky enough to be expectional at maths something I wish I was but his writing is poor and when he got scored for his sats he scored low for writing. I was honest with him and praised him for the areas he did well at and he is continuing to focus on his writing and is working hard to improve it. I think you might have her at a disadvantage when she starts big school.

Underthemoonlight · 11/07/2017 13:55

I don't judge getting a tutor I think it's a good thing to help her with her maths and continue to do so when she gets to seniors.

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