When do parents get ks2 SATs results?

[3littlebadgers]

Just that really, I know schools found out today. Will we?

I'm proud of DD. She got 116 Reading, 117 Grammar, and 106 Maths. English was always her 'thing' so not overly surprised there but Maths was always a struggle. She's worked her ass off this year, battling Maths Exam anxiety, to get her scores up and I couldn't be prouder of how hard she's worked.

It's odd though as these scores don't directly affect her as her high school assess when they start so in reality the scores mean nothing to her, but the confidence she's gained in Maths is worth it.

Trb17 well done to your DD. I think they have an impact on the secondary school though isn't Progress 8 based on SATs so our girls are going to have to do well at secondary.

So proud of my DS too! He got 120 and 118 in reading and 120 in maths.

Well done to all our DC

Well done all of these hard working and amazing children

Aw well done all the DC's. Considering the pressure some schools put on them it's extra nice to see good results for the pain of it.

Thank you Edna and well done to your DD too - I think you're right in relation to the Progress 8. It seems high school will expect good results from them. I hope they don't apply too much pressure because of expectations though. Fingers firmly crossed.

DS got 90, 96 and 100. Love him to bits and I'm proud of him everyday.

We don't get the results till Friday 14th in the end of term reports so a while to wait...

Very proud of DS – 120 in maths and spag, and 118 in reading. Very able cohort, so many of his friends had similar results. Well done to everyone!

The 110 thing is confusing - it is acknowledged that 110 is the score needed for a 'high score' but as teachers we can not submit greater depth for anything other than writing. If your child got 113 in maths for example, it's considered a 'high score' but will stay say 'expected standard' rather than greater depth.

Of course the teacher can say themselves that child is working at greater depth in maths, and this may be on their report, but it can't be submitted - only writing. It's a bizarre system.

re progress 8 at secondary, I was explaining this to my dd earlier. All targets are set based on performance in English/Maths at ks2. Now that's not a massive leap when you are thinking about things like science or the humanities.... but the arts? PE? Not as much correlation there in my experience! These grades mean they will be expected to be high achievers in EVERYTHING. I'm a secondary teacher in a non core subject so this is something I battle with every year. Having watched my dd cheerfully take last place at sports day earlier, I reckon she's going to have some pretty unachievable targets in some areas!

All targets are set based on performance in English/Maths at ks2

It's even narrower, only reading and Maths scores will be used to calculate progress 8.

I know that, I just meant it isn't based on anything else! E.g., my dd has grade 6 on a musical instrument. This will have no relevance when it comes to her music target. And as I said, her failure to achieve in anything sporty will just mean that she is consistently under target in .PE even though she tries hard and is genuinely working to the best of her ability. It's something that drives me to distraction every year at work.

Unicorn, can I ask, does it work the other way round with the targets? DS got the 90 for his reading - dyslexia dx in yr5, coming on keeps and bounds but will need alot of catch up. Is really quite a smart cookie, hoping he'll still get sufficient challenge (alongside dyslexia support).

His targets will be set low, but they will be adjusted upwards as he meets them. Schools like and need to show as much progress as possible so he certainly won't be allowed to coast!
I'm not sure if it's the same everywhere but in my area, targets can only be adjusted upwards, not down. I can input my own data to show where children start the year and track the progress they make, but they are still judged against the targets they are set externally. If they are overachieving, they are blue on the data tracking and this gives you a heads up to keep pushing. If they are red, they are significantly underachieving. I use my teacher assessed data to prove every child is making progress, but I still can't alter the targets which makes for some interesting conversations with parents at parents evening!

Unicornpug your DD sounds very much like mine. She isn't sporty although does love dancing riding and swimming isn't a good runner or that coordinated. I think she will have the same issue.

Twoleftsocks I suspect secondary will love your DS. Lots more room to show progress and overachieve on his development particularly if they support his dyslexia well.

Thank you, that's really helpful to know. I'm hoping he'll love it there too and do well, he's really looking forward to a lot of the subjects, already lining up interesting questions for his history teachers about 17th century warfare.

Just wondering how many parents got any form of explanation of what the numbers mean, when they receive their children's results?

Have you been told 110 is considered high or 100 the expected standard, or that only writing can be identntified as greater depth by teachers?

And if schools just send numbers home without any info, I really wonder why this is.....it's a relatively new system and will be the first time the vast majority of parents are getting these kind of results - so I just wonder why more effort isn't put into making what they mean clear......this probably goes for the children too.

Yes, I know the data is for schools to use and government too, but the kids work very hard for these, so deserve a proper understanding of how they have done, most parents are interested and would like to understand.....but it just seems that unless people push or go on forums like this, they remain in the dark. I just don't get why this is the case at both KS1 and KS2.

We got results yesterday, DS got 110 in maths, 116 in reading and 118 in spag, we're super proud of him and grateful to his teacher for helping him through the SATs process.

We told him it didn't matter what scores he got, that we'd be celebrating anyway, but to see him so proud and with a spring in his step before his taster day at high school today was absolutely lovely.

Got DS results today. He got 117 in maths and a 107 and a 108. We are super proud as his school is in special measures.

Lovely to see some more fab results. Well done to those children.

WombatChocolate I don't think it is usually well explained. Our school tries but also parents don't always litsen. I'm interested so read around the subject so yes I was aware of how it worked.

Our children were told individually today (with a chat about how fantastic they were, and how proud the school are of every one of them). Results go home with school reports next week.

We hand them out today and tomorrow at Parents' Evening, along with an explanation of the way the scaled scores work.

Ds1 got 107, 99 and 98. He's really sad. We're incredibly proud- he's only a few months on from finally getting a diagnosis and starting medication, he has been attaining at a low level for ages and spent SATs week in meltdown, spending part of every evening screaming on the floor of his bedroom. In light of all that I am damn bloody proud of his achievements. At the same time I am disgusted with a system which has so hammered into him that not achieving the expected standard makes him a failure that he has been left feeling so rubbish. He took himself off to bed early all quiet and unlike himself :(

Can you let his teacher know alltouchedout? I'm sure they wouldn't want him feeling like that. As assessments go it's really doesn't fit with any of the other school assessments that will show useful data about his own progress (yes its supposed to show progress since ks1 but that's meant to be a measure of the school's overall effectiveness and it's harder to make comparisons of any value to the individual).

Certainly with DS's school, they track his own personal progress against where he's at academically and he's always working towards his own personal best, as it were. Throw this set of results into the mix and they don't fit with that as there's no personal benchmark to know if they're good or not, all that's left is comparison with your peers, and as is quoted often on here, comparison is the thief of joy.

If you can, get the teacher to help him focus on his own achievements through the year and celebrate all the things that a test on how well you do English and maths tests can't ever measure his own awesomeness. And give him a hug from me too.

I will definitely give him a hug from you TwoLeftSocks :) Yes, I need to talk to his teacher. I'll send in an email I think. Ds1 seems a bit less deflated and miserable this morning but still not his usual self.