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What provision should be made for 'more able' students?

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JammieDodgem · 03/03/2017 14:11

I know the old G&T scheme is no longer a thing but when it was it seemed all primary schools had a policy available on the website and locally I was aware of more able primary pupils going to workshops at local secondaries etc.

I now have 2 dc at primary and both are doing well but I feel their needs are not being especially well catered for. My yr 2 child is well ahead of where she needs to be for the summer SATS and I feel that for this reason she's not being given much attention at all. I'm not especially into pushing her on or her being treated differently but I am really concerned that she doesn't feel particularly engaged or excited by what's going on. The school doesn't seem to offer much to enrich the curriculum and no lunch or after school clubs so I keep her busy and interested outside of school but am beginning to feel I want more from her school experience. There doesn't seem to be any policy or requirement for them to lay out their strategies for those doing well.

Is that reasonable? How do other schools manage these situations?

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user789653241 · 09/03/2017 10:36

MrR2200, I found digital roots fascinating. We will explore that with ds.
Do you (or any maths teachers!) have any other interesting topic for Ks2 maths enthusiasts?

MrR2200 · 09/03/2017 21:24

Arkadia: This is true but I suggest it’s easier to train teachers to explore the current curriculum in depth than it is to teach KS3 maths or to juggle multiple classes. I’m not a maths specialist by any means and I went down the English route at school but there is a lot of support out there.

irvineoneohone: I'm illustrating the extreme cases of differentiation really. Generally speaking, I try to avoid differentiating by task at all -- it's much more fun when you find those "low-threshold, high ceiling" tasks where everyone has the same puzzle and different children take it as far as they are able.

Glad you like the digital roots though. It helps them if they know the divisibility tests for 2, 3, 5, 9 and 10. The one for 11 is probably less useful but a lot more fun.

I'm not sure I can give "topics" exactly. A lot of things emerge naturally from asking the same few questions: is it always/sometimes/never true, what's the odd one out, can you see a pattern, etc.

e.g. Linked to finding decimals: take a hundred square — if each number shown was the denominator in a unit fraction, which are equivalent to numbers with recurring decimals? What’s the pattern and why? Predict the next three non-recurring fractions after 100.

But there are lots of resources around. Nrich is fun as you’ve found already and these open-ended maths investigations include several which are good for Y6 - palindromic numbers always seems to be a huge hit. John Dabell has a great book on problem solving although it's quite pricey.

Numberphile on youtube is great and has provided some ideas for fun investigations which reinforce arithmetic skills. The ISBN trick in “11.11.11”. Making ulam spirals is lovely for primes. Happy numbers also encourages methodical approaches to problems.

(Some of their videos don't serve the curriculum especially but the kids like them anyway. Dragon curves are fun if you have 15 minutes and a long strip of paper -- I tend to save empty sticker rolls or use old display border. The illegal numbers video doesn’t really have anything to do but it’s interesting to talk about, especially when showing how prime numbers are useful in the world. Why 0.999=1 is also fun as an adjunct to decimals once you've covered algebra.)

As one-offs, puzzles are good fun. How many squares are there on a standard chessboard (it's not 64!). How can you plant 10 trees in five rows of four each? Using the digits 1-9 once only, what’s the earliest time you can create in the format HH:MM:SS DD/MM? What does each letter stand for in HOME x WORK = SUPREME? Also, I’ve never figured out an investigation to allow children to discover this independently but you can use two consecutive numbers in the Fibonacci sequence to convert roughly between miles and km (8km = 5m, 13km = 8m etc.).

Chessboard puzzles are particular favourites. Some of these need computing algorithms to calculate efficiently so they're more for wet play than the curriculum but it's great to see them huddled around chessboards sharing theories. For example: can you fit 8 queens on a board without any of them being able to take each other; how many knights can you fit on without them being able to take each other; what’s the minimum number of pieces needed to be able to take a piece anywhere on the board? etc.

user789653241 · 09/03/2017 21:46

Thank you so much, MrR2200

Your post make it sound like maths is such a fun things to explore, rather than just calculating numbers.
We(especially my ds) will definitely have fun looking into those suggestions.

These are the times I really appreciate existence of MN.

Thank you again, MrR, and thank you MN!

Arkadia · 09/03/2017 22:34

Irvine, maths IS fun ;)

user789653241 · 10/03/2017 06:44

Arkadia, yes I know! I enjoy learning maths with my ds.
Maybe my wording was wrong? Sorry I didn't mean maths was boring in the first place.

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