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Whats the general rule for reception kids when releasing them at home time? Bit cross with ds's teacher..........

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northerner · 19/02/2007 15:57

I have a few issues with her anyway, but I was a few minutes late at pick up time today.

School kicks out at 3.15, I arrived at 3.18pm.

DS was in the main playground wandering around looking for me. I went to his teacher and mentioned she had released him and I wasn't there. She said 'Northerners ds, that was another bad choice wasn't it? If you can't see you're mummy you stay in the gate'

I was Surely this is her 'bad choice' not a 4 yaer olds.

So why oh why did I not say anything to her?

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serenity · 20/02/2007 00:24

at frances5, must be nice to be so perfect!

Our school is pretty strict too.All classes (up to Yr6) line up in the playground after school, and the parent care has to be seen by the class teacher/TA before they can go. By DS1s age (Yr4) it usually means his teacher spotting me on the other side of the playground getting DS2, waving at me and sending DS1 over. If a parent is late (you know, traffic, small children needing to have a poo just as you have to leave, various other unavoidable acts of god) then the teacher takes them to the office where one teacher or TA is rota'd to take care of them until 4pm, after which time they are dispatched to the after school club (parent will be charged) and the office starts making phone calls.

SueW · 20/02/2007 00:25

DD's school has strict letting out for all children to Y6 i.e. teacher sees parent/carer.

If you are late your child goes into after-school care for which you are charged about a fiver, I think. There's about 10 minutes grace, which is about the time it takes to dismiss all the children.

Skribble · 20/02/2007 01:00

P1 (reception) they let them go one by one at the door when they see the parent or child points out whois there for them.

Its not about being an unpaid childminder it is about duty of care, I do not think it is above and beyond the call to make sure each child in the class has an adult present to take them home and to hold on to a few until the appropriate adult is there for them.

If there are parents that are consistently late fair enough discuss it with them but not on to turf 4 and 5 year olds out with out checking they have someone there.

alipiggie · 20/02/2007 01:09

I am presuming there was a teacher, NTA/TA in the playground with them. Either way, no 4yr old should be left to wander around looking for a parent. Sad sign of the times I know. At 5 I was walking to school on my own. I agree with Northener that talking to teachers can make you feel 5 again yourself .

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northerner · 20/02/2007 10:30

wotzsaname and frances5 ahve you never been late collecting your kids from school? And if you were, would you expect to see them wandering around aimlessly loooking for you at 4 years old?

If I had a child minder or even a friend looking after him I would not expect them to chuck him out of the house at the time I said I would collect him. They would wait untill I was there.

Also, I have to write a note to teh teacher if someone else is collecting him, what is the point in that if they do not even notice who the hell has turned up to collect?

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damewashalot · 20/02/2007 10:33

Not read whole thread but my ds's infant school doesn't let children leave the classroom until the teacher sees the person collecting them and if your name is not on their list of people who can collect you can't have the child.

Twiglett · 20/02/2007 10:35

go to teacher and say

"teacher I think you made a bad choice allowing DS to go when I wasn't in the playground, please don't do it again"

DS has to be told by teacher that he can go, ie ask permission if she hasn't already said its ok and he's 6 in yr 1

Azure · 20/02/2007 10:55

DS's class (Yr 1) are lined up in the playground and the teacher shakes hands with them one-by-one as they are released to the person collecting. They then shake hands with the person at the gate on the way out (the head teacher on Fridays), where there is a CCTV. Possibly OTT but am that 4 year-olds can just be released into the playground where anyone could collect them or they could make their own way out. For OP I really don't like the teacher talking about bad choices though, including the singing in a silly voice. It does sound demeaning, especially when said infront of him. Honestly, what 4 year-old doesn't do silly things on occasions - it should just be dealt with in the class appropriately and not be reported to the parent as if it were a major issue.

wotzsaname · 20/02/2007 14:34

Yes I have been late once.

The time I was late was when a close friend rang me at 3pm to tell me her husband had died suddenly that morning.

Otherwise no.

It sounded to me as if your ds had said he had seen you which was why she let him go. Otherwise why would she?

But I agree a child shouldn't be left! Do you think i'm stupid?

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northerner · 20/02/2007 14:37

When did I ever say ds has said he had seen me? He hadn't. She hadn't even realised he had snuck out.

And even if a 4 year old says they can see Mummy do you as an adult take their word for it or do you wait till you can see them?

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wotzsaname · 20/02/2007 14:45

Yes it was awful when she rang to tell me!
oh sorry this is about you. Speak to the teacher and ask her that question. Hope it goes well.

fryalot · 20/02/2007 14:45

At every school that I have had experience of (5 primaries,) the teacher has waited with children until responsibile adult turns up. In fact, when I decided that at 10 my dd1 was old enough to walk the five feet to our house without being collected, I was called in to the school to justify my decision. It is the responsibility of the teacher to make sure that the child is safe until he/she is handed over to said responsible adult. It is NOT the responsibility of a 4 yr old to look after himself (in or out of school) and the teacher should have been more aware. The teacher also should not have tried to pass the blame to northerner's ds when caught out.

It was probably a mistake and she will probably be more careful in future; however, I would have some concerns if it were my dcs school.

Radley · 20/02/2007 14:53

I think that people should stop having a go at northerner.

Being 3 minutes late is not the be all and end all, what about when teachers are late opening the doors? leaving parents stood in whatever weather and making them later and later for work.

Maybe northerner set off in PLENTY of time, but things happen

Traffic lights not working
Roadworks
Exceptionally bad traffic (traffic is ridiculous here on race days, affecting the whole town)

NORTHERNER at dd2's school, there are 30 in her class and the teacher sits them all on a mat and does not let them out of the room until SHE has seen mummy, daddy, or whoever is collecting them.

I don't think it's a case of did he come to any harm etc, but it's a case of the teacher not doing her job correctly, ensuring the safety of this little boy.

I would most definately have a word with her and if there is no joy, go and see the head.

Thank goodness your littlie didn't get onto the road.

FluffyMummy123 · 20/02/2007 14:55

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wotzsaname · 20/02/2007 14:56

I think that people should stop having a go at northerner too

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northerner · 20/02/2007 14:57

Anyway, as it did not sit right with me I have called the head, in a non confrontational way and he thanked me for bringing this to his attention. He will amke sure it does not happen again.

I am expecting him to be chained to teh fence tonight

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Radley · 20/02/2007 14:59

LOL Northerner, let us know how it goes.

FluffyMummy123 · 20/02/2007 15:00

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oliveoil · 20/02/2007 15:02

how dare you be late?

they should have given him a map and kicked him out

bloody working parents, don't know they are born

tut

fryalot · 20/02/2007 15:03

just keep your fingers crossed that they can find the key for those chains, northerner!

wotzsaname · 20/02/2007 15:05

she should be on her way now with the chain cutters.

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northerner · 20/02/2007 15:05

Ha Ha ladies.

You may jest Cod, but I do think she has a problem with me as opposed to a fleece/shapeless jeans/comfy shoes type mum.

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StrawberrySnowflakes · 20/02/2007 15:06

god calm down and stop having a go!, Northener is well within her right to not expect to see her 4yr old wandering around a half empty school..End of!

Northener, our reception class doesnt let the children out of the door until they see a parents there to collect them..words need to be had, shes the adult and shes there to care for your child as well as all the others, if she cant then she shouldn be doing this job!..it not all about teaching them abc's is about keeping them safe until you collect them THEN its not her problem, but not one second before!

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northerner · 20/02/2007 15:06

I can hear the gasps as you all think I will be late for collection again.

I work till 6pm on a Tues so dh does pick up.

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oliveoil · 20/02/2007 15:08

point at her top and say loudly to ds 'another bad choice there hey Hugo-Bartholmewwwww' glare and leave

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