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TO not get Phonics

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BIgBagofJelly · 23/12/2016 08:30

I'm mainly curious as opposed to concerned, my DD is summer born reception and brings home ORT level 2 books so I'm assuming she's within the normal range and I'm not really worried. What I don't get though is the school make a huge dealt of phonics (and I understand there's a lot of evidence to back this up) but the Oxford Reading Tree books she brings home seem to have so many words that she can't "decode" either because they're irregular or because she hasn't learned that particular rule yet. (E.g. the E on the end of a word in "Like" "Snake" etc). Am I meant to be explaining that to her or should she just read the entire word and learn it?

I can understand building up a catalogue of "High frequency words" but it doesn't even seem like the same word is consolidated so isn't she bound to forget them anyway?

AS I said I'm not really worried she seems neither particularly advanced nor particularly behind but I was curious about what I should be doing with these words and the reading books in general. Should I read each one once? Read it a few times?

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maizieD · 03/01/2017 23:24

or providing other strategies to work out the word

I was nodding along with you until you got to this bit...Shock

What 'other strategies' do you suggest?

AllPizzasGreatAndSmall · 03/01/2017 23:36

I am shocked that some schools do not have phonics based reading scheme books and claim they don't have the money to replace books; they've had ten years to replace them!

Emeraude · 03/01/2017 23:39

Look at the picture, look at the words around and work out from the context, is it a word they recognise from elsewhere etc. All the stuff that you actually use to learn to read.

Emeraude · 03/01/2017 23:47

I don't see the books as a big deal to be honest. The guided readers we have are brand new and they don't follow Letters and Sounds either. They are used to teach reading strategies and sight words, along with phonics. I say this having taught Year 1 last year and getting a very high phonics screening check pass rate, amongst the best in the country, despite teaching in an area of socio-economic deprivation. The overall reading was just as good. So maybe the books we send home aren't the be all and end all.

mrz · 04/01/2017 06:38

"Look at the picture, look at the words around and work out from the context, is it a word they recognise from elsewhere etc. All the stuff that you actually use to learn to read."

Actually all the strategies used by poor readers and incredibly bad advice.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 04/01/2017 07:03

In our case it was easier to teach my son magic 'e' or naughty M and Mrs e as I've taken to calling him

Feenie · 04/01/2017 07:04

Emeraude -state, academy or private?

TataEs · 04/01/2017 08:30

i bought the read write inc teaching guide when ds was 2.5 and i taught him to read thru phonics. it really really annoys me that the books that come home from school are not phonics based. it makes it really hard for the kids. i don't even know how they've banded them. i was reading with one child the other day on band one and the words in the book were tyrannosaurus, diplodocus, stegosaurus etc... like that's not overwhelming for a kid still sounding out cat!
because i've learnt enough i can spot words ds (and usually the other children i read with) can't yet decode i decode them for him so he sees how i'm doing it and move on. i don't want him to not enjoy reading because the school haven't invested in books that reflect their teaching!

Feenie · 04/01/2017 12:49

I am sick of hearing about state schools who either don't know the curriculum and/or think it's optional.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 04/01/2017 17:08

To compensate DS got a fully decodable book in same level and it is very easy

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