Teachers removing make up

[ljn133]

Does anyone know whether a teacher in a primary school is legally allowed to remove a childs nail polish?

Yep ballet I do a lot of work with pre and primary children thanks.

Although admittedly I do now manage a team who deal with alternative education rather direct work but thank you bless you back

I dunno oak why shouldn't she? It's bloody hot in those hospitals. Does she want to?

I don't understand why some parents hate the idea of their children conforming. EVER.

Nobody wants children to be mindless personalityless drones, chanting the party line, but there are times when getting by in society requires you to conform. School is part of the process of teaching children that actually there are times when it is necessary to conform.

I must take my leave now - things to do & all that.

Life to get on with.

That is my point, RJ. Sometimes there are rules which are there because society as a whole thinks they are appropriate (senior doctors should wear clothes/ teenagers should attend to the process of learning rather than comparing manicures).

I'd prefer my children's standards to be around behaviour abd how they treat others than appearance based thanks.

We can't pick and choose which rules we think apply to us or what we deem as important. You rely on schools to educate your child, but part of that education is to teach our children that there are rules and regulations in school AND in real life, that we must respect and must follow.

Teaching our children to respect and comply with rules is an integral part of societal living. So, it doesn't matter a jot what you think of your schools 'stupid' or pointless (ad infinitum) rules, if you show your willing to break these rules then you aren't doing your children any favours in the long run.

Oak I don't hate the idea of conforming ever. Example - on fridays dd has food tech abd they don't allow nail varnish for cooking for h abd s reasons. I have no issue, actually is be quite annoyed if she tried to.

I do have an issue with expecting children to conform just cos we as adults say so. It doesn't support critical thinking. It's a method of oppression and teaching people their place as agents of the state.

And I'd be livid if a teacher forcibly removed nail varnish from any child. Eg food tech. Ask them to remove it? Give them the tools, if they don't they can't participate. End of.

I'd love to see the responses to a post "my ex won't allow my child to wear nail varnish because he disagrees with it" but it's ok because it's an institution.

Thank you usual.

Rosa parks may as well have sat at the back I guess? That was a rule.

Working in non-mainstream with children who have different issues is totally different to mainstream.

When precious snowflake rings to say they have to wear x.y,z for work that's when reality sets in for them. But hey why conform?

I explained the overall reason. Because it's a rule and rules should be followed. Don't want to pay? break the rule. Someone upset you? Hurt them back.

Clearly some parents can't see past their own "reasons" and never will in a misguided idea of creating a free spirit.

Where did I say I don't work in mainstream?

I do have an issue with expecting children to conform just cos we as adults say so

Try being a teacher in a class with a bunch of kids who question every bloody instruction. It's a pain in the ass.

Rosa parks may as well have sat at the back I guess? That was a rule.

An example of a rule that was challenged and changed perhaps? Changed how though? That's right by changing of opinion and consensus of society. Not peacefully or easily though.

But I'm sure comparison such as that and equal human rights for all and school rules are on par with each other. I bet Nelson Mandella would go back to prison to fight against it too if he were still here.

Any hoo, night all.

RJ yes actually I have seen several false nail incidents at school - the most horrific when a girl ripped her whole nail off as she caught it in a door walking in to class. So much blood. I have also seen a serious eye injury as a result of these nails in school.

What RJ says, with bells on.
I can see why others feel the need to conform though.

Kids must get really confused for their first non school uniform days then.

We used to get marched down to the metal work and have it removed with turps

Classroom

Yes, they are.

When I was in school, you would've been sent to the office to take the nail polish off. The same went for excessive makeup. I saw it happen countless times.

It was written into the school rules that no nail polish was allowed.

I wouldn't remove a child's nail varnish, I've not got the time or inclination, plus it's often something a child and her mum/auntie/friend have spent time having fun doing together. I think nails can be quite creative. False nails in primary are a different story - they really can be hazardous. Make up is fair game though. Can't stand seeing little ones plastered in make up. They're given a baby wipe or 3 and sent to remove it. It's rare (in my experience) for primary children to try to wear make up around here.