Teachers removing make up

[ljn133]

Does anyone know whether a teacher in a primary school is legally allowed to remove a childs nail polish?

So if those stupid rules that don't impact on learning aren't thee in the first place to be flouted what happens?

Is challenge "how does my child know which rules to follow when you have so many that have no basis "

Don't get me wrong some employers ;hello Tesco) do it to adults too but I've never found a tattoo or some hair dye to decrease performance in my staff either.

As do Police, most schools and lots of other employers. How often do you see those programs on TV where someone is trying to reduce/eliminate tattoos, piercings etc. to gain better employment chances?

Likewise I have seen countless younger people enter work and try to ignore rules they don't fancy following only for them to be out on their ear. All the time not thinking there is a problem because parents have supported them in the past that it's only an "arbitrary rule".

So if those stupid rules that don't impact on learning aren't thee in the first place to be flouted what happens?

To set a standard. Just like any employer that sets a dress code.

So teach them the importance of rules and make your rules important not just made up for no particular reason.

There are plenty of employerswho don't impose those rules including the schools round here. Even the NHS is relaxing. As an employee you can choose where you work anyway. As a school child you have little enough power.

Are schools all about teaching children to conform now to become economic units or about encouraging free thought, emotional development and expression?

Actually don't answer, sadly I know the answer a lot of the time...

I'd prefer my children's standards to be around behaviour abd how they treat others than appearance based thanks.

If there aren't any stupid rules that don't impact on learning for kids to break they have to do the rebel bit by breaking rules that do matter. Part of the reason for the rules is so that those who need to can break them and feel the consequences. Some children do actually need to break some rules and take the consequences.

Be grateful there was nail polish remover. I came home from a friend's house with clear nail varnish on at about 10yo and my dad made me scrape it off with the nail scissors.

So

The kids are going to learn the hard way from the stupid nail varnish rule and not break the important rules?

How do they know which are the important rules?

Are they not perhaps, if they are that way inclined, to think of they are being punished for fuck all anyway they might as well just give up?
Why oh why would you want to voluntarily impose additional stress on a child just to teach them their place?

And we wonder why schools fail so many young people.

No, it's RJ. it's that they need to break some rules (any rules) so by giving them some easy/painless rules to break you avoid them breaking the ones that do cause harm to people or property.

Sorry that doesn't answer how they know which ones are the ones they are supposed to break?

Surely you can see how ludicrous it is as you write it.

Perhaps school credit these poor children with more intelligence than their parents do? They know the same way you do, by making a judgement as to the relative consequences.

Good lord.

So -imposing arbitrary rules with no foundation is to prove to the children that they are intelligent?

Sorry my head has actually exploded. That's the logic pf someone with absolutely no foundation to argue from.

I want my child to be a freeeeeeee spirit. Nobody should force her to follow pointless arbitary rules.

And the very next time her employers send her home and say she can't wear a bikini to work, I will be phoning them, the newspaper and my MP to complain. After all, wearing a bikini doesn't affect her ability to conduct brain surgery.

Don't send your child to a school with those rules then RJ

Me personally I prefer my children to go to a school where they won't be distracted in class with bright coloured nails & make up.

RJ - how about you stop hijacking the thread? You have given your opinion and clearly know better than everyone else who has an alternative opinion.

Rules in school, rules in work, laws in society. They are all there for a reason, you have been given several suggestions at to why they exist. The fact of the matter is that if you/the child don't like those rules you don't live by them and pay the consequences or you find another school.
Most rules are enforced through expected conformity (just like laws) and meet the expectations of that that society want.

In answer to the OP a child can be made to remove them but touching the child could indeed be assault.

The secondary school I attended has a no make up/nail varnish rule. If you had make up on the teacher would give you a baby/wet wipe to remove it, same with nail varnish they'd give you cotton wool and nail varnish remover.

Oakmaiden

That is all

I don't ballet but thanks anyway. I also think it's more important for my children to learn to deal with distractions than be cushioned from them but hey.

Oak that's another pile of ridiculousness. Appropriate clothing for a setting is for practical reasons. A brain surgeon would be required to wear scrubs to minimise contagion.

Sorry Cand it is a public forum and I am allowed to post as I want as long as I am not making personal attacks. Even if it doesn't suit you. Have you run out of nonexistent reasons for the rule?

Oh RJ - bless.

Have you ever taught primary aged children? They have the attention spans of fleas half the time.

But as you obviously are happy with your child's school let the rest of us be happy to follow our children's schools rules.

God forbid we enable a child to go against expected conformity!

Well, obviously she wears scrubs in theatre.

But why shouldn't she wear her bikini out of theatre?

If you say so dear.