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School strikes: what's the consequences?

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Michaelsmummy2016 · 08/07/2016 20:31

Serious question: what is the consequence of children missing a vital day of education through strikes/ votes etc to schools/ teachers? In the same way as me allowing a day off for something?

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Michaelsmummy2016 · 09/07/2016 00:18

It is for vastly different reasons but has the exact same outcome.

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ilovesooty · 09/07/2016 00:22

Of course it's not the same thing.

HopeClearwater · 09/07/2016 00:23

The reasons matter.

And as has already been pointed out, a bunch of parents are never going to get together and all take their kids out for the same week. So - not the same. Teachers hate the fines on parents. So alienating.

You try doing the job anyway. You'll get paid far, far less than in accounting for a damn sight more work. Why do you think teachers are leaving the profession? They're all suddenly lazy? Where I live, the headteachers are desperate for staff. But the pay is much too low compared to the housing costs round here and the working conditions are crap. Look to successive governments for the root of the problem, not to the teaching unions.

Rainuntilseptember · 09/07/2016 00:28

I don't get the talk of equality.
It's similar to the way pupils sometimes talk "how do you get to wear what you want to school when I have to wear uniform ? Etc.

Wolfiefan · 09/07/2016 00:33

Daily Fail reporter?! Odd thread.

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Michaelsmummy2016 · 09/07/2016 00:36

Why would my reasons not be as important as anyone else's though? There is so much narrow mindedness. And judgement. Aggression and assumption. And I will say once again not once have I blamed teachers schools or in fact unions for any one single thing. Or disagreed with anyone's reasons. Pure defensiveness is all I am reading in these replies with not one be person actually considering the issue from the point of view that a missed day is a missed day - and if one group of people (parents) are criminalised for that then surely when the shoe is on someone's foot that should stand. No one seems able to grasp that concept. I suppos it is hard to accept what you feel is the right thing to do being challenged and criminalised. I am simply commenting on the inequality of it without laying blame at anyone's door. You are absolutely right this does need to be taken up with government.

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Michaelsmummy2016 · 09/07/2016 00:39

Also just a note I am not suggesting teachers be criminalised either.

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Rainuntilseptember · 09/07/2016 00:43

A school being closed as they cannot provide a service due to staff industrial action simply isn't the same as a parent choosing not to use that service for their own reasons.

HopeClearwater · 09/07/2016 00:47

My god - one missed day!! Look at when they called the action for this year - in July, no public exams affected, no preparation for Sats or GCSEs etc affected. It's minimal. Have you got some kind of a problem with unions and collective bargaining?

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Michaelsmummy2016 · 09/07/2016 00:49

Aha but that is my point 'their own reasons'... No ones reasons can automatically be deemed more important than anyone else's reasons opinions beliefs. The outcome for the child is the same. They did not receive education on that day. Who is accountable?

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ilovesooty · 09/07/2016 00:54

It isn't the same thing.
Inequality simply isn't relevant.

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Michaelsmummy2016 · 09/07/2016 01:00

Inequality is relevant to me. Ahh well politics and debates, it's all an illusion. I think I'll leave it there. I may need to broaden my demographic.

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LottieDoubtie · 09/07/2016 06:17

One parent and their family reasons are simply NOT equal to the action of a teaching Union no.

And parents are not routinely fined for ONE day out of education either - you are comparing a day with a week.

If the needs of every parent in the class were so closely aligned that with prior warning they took their children out of school on one single day then I suppose the 'consequences' would be similar- a day lost, staff working hard to catch the children up, some extra curricular stuff going by the wayside as a result.

But since that situation so do hypothetical as to be ridiculous it isn't really legislated for. Does that help?

LottieDoubtie · 09/07/2016 06:18

'Broaden your demographic' are you suggesting we are very stupid?

Because, you know, that's quite rude just because you are being disagreed with.

abbsismyhero · 09/07/2016 06:21

When my sons school teacher took part in a strike he lost his attendance bonus and could not take part in the end of year treat

AllPowerfulLizardPerson · 09/07/2016 07:18

"There is so much narrow mindedness"

What, in not responding to a wholly hypothetical comparison that is so unrealistic that the whole cohort unauthorised day/s off might as well be to a unicorn petting zoo?

Spottytop1 · 09/07/2016 07:40

Your question has been answered several times but as you appear to want different answers to what has been given you are choosing to ignore them!

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