year one book band

[prettyFLower23]

Hi
My DD is currently on ORT level 9.
What happens in year 2 once children finish the books?
Level 9 looks like expected for year 2, should I ask what additional support she'll be given for progression in year 2?

NB this is not a gloat thread, asking for feedback

I've got an exceptional. She can read chapter books. At OP's school she would be on level 1 though as she hasn't started reception yet. OP's DD could be exceptional, you can't tell from the reading level because of the daft policy.

Yeah, why they deliberately hold children back by making them read all the books? I don't think it's a great school for able children.

Why are some on this thread presuming that children from professional backgrounds should be more "able"

Oh come on!!

It is a safe presumption, surely, that the child of two solicitors will be more able than the child of a couple that decided to leave school at 16 and now work as cashiers in supermarkets.

This is not snobbish. This is reality. Of course there will exemptions, of course there will be. But the fact remains that able children invariable come from able parents. And if you are able, it is likely that you will occupy a professional employment position.

Exemptions should read exceptions

There's being pc, and then there's just being daft.

Reading is not just being able to read a stream of words, it's about comprehension. So it's important to read a good load of books within a level, to ensure good comprehension. Although to require ALL to be read is excessive.

And then parents can supplement the school reading with books that they feel can match their children's reading ability.

So the school can be sure of comprehension before moving up a level, and the parents fears that their child is being held back are assuaged.

so for those with DC at the end of P1, what other non-ORT books do your DC like? DD loved the M&S first readers but they're starting to be a little bit too easy they're probably levels 4-6 for ORT equiv

We liked songbirds at that stage.

Enjoying - Many able parents don't occupy professional positions. I was ex oxbridge / know lots of bright people who through I'll health or just turns of events in life haven't. Obviously if you move in professional circles (as I used to) It's all you see but there's many people who didn't "make it" for one reason or another.

Similarly my area on the whole isn't professional but many bright kids doing well at school.

Munch crunch
My DD likes rainbow books and my little pony series plus Enid blyton wishing chair and far away tree

Tbh the school reading had always been an issue as they held DD back in reception with regards to no books until spring term, reading every book on a level .. They don't allow able children to move on

Thanks - I'm currently trawling book people :) both DH and I are ft+ workers and although we pay most of my salary for good childcare, I don't think our DDs get enough parental input so it's not at all obvious to me that they're going to be better off than if I'd stopped working because it wasn't financially viable when they were small - both of us had SAHMs who were always there for us at the expense of their own self-fulfillment and we've achieved, I'm not sure my DDs have anywhere near the level of help other children get.

Op, no reading until spring term of reception seems very odd. My ds's school started reading homework since week2, according to the child's ability. So my ds started on Lv6, quickly jumped to Lv8 after two weeks.(Assume the teacher adjusted after more thorough assessment.)
And this school is not particularly good at able children either, but more than 1/3 of year got old NClv 3 in reaing end of Yr2.

good at stretching

Moving on.... When you say they didn't "make it", what do you mean?

A professional background doesn't necessarily mean you're rolling it! A nurse is a professional, a teacher, a social worker.

You're saying your ex Oxbridge colleagues who haven't made it are non professionals? I doubt it

Vickster, statistically speaking people in professional jobs are likely to have above average intelligence, and people with above average intelligence are more likely to have intelligent kids. Which part of that would you disagree with?

The fact that people in professional jobs are necessarily above average intelligence. Many of them have just had good educational opportunities and supportive parents. Children of professional parents will do better but it doesn't make them more naturally intelligent.
Plenty of intelligent people don't end up in professional jobs. Lots of people are intelligent but find it hard to progress due to their background & lack of opportunities. Hence schemes to support children from disadvantaged backgrounds.

I disagree

I've met hundreds of professionals and never met one I'd consider below average intelligence. The skills required in the modern workforce (resilience, career building, rapid multi tasking, time management for two working parents, more hands on parent and school management expected while parents working) mean I think there is evidence certain segments of the population are becoming more intelligent

It may is true there are intelligent people without jobs adequately matching their intelligence/ skill set. That is the subject of labour market / personal decisions/ geography/ inequality.

Correlation is not causation

It maybe true, but saying that sort of thing on public forum, when you are asking for advice, doesn't help you at all.

What is exceptional at end of year 1 then (out of interest) ?

My DD was reading literally anything by the time she started reception. To keep the level of content down, and appropriate, she was kept to more simple chapter books. I believe this was exceptional.

But now she's in yr 1 and reading Enid Blyton, Rold Dahl etc I don't believe her reading is exceptional anymore. Others in her class are reading chapter books.

Is there an 'exceptional' level for yr 1 reading? Surely there are enough yr 1 children who are 'free readers' to mean it is not possible to be exceptional at this age? Once you can read and comprehend everything, that's the job done, isn't it? There isn't another step. It have I missed the point?

OP, your school sounds a bit mad. Or, controlling and deliberately restrictive.

Having a blanket rule of EVERY child reading EVERY book in a band is ridiculous.

I think you've been had. Sorry.

Vickster, not necessarily, no. But statistically speaking, yes, people in professional jobs are on average more intelligent. And so are their kids.

Surely there are enough yr 1 children who are 'free readers' to mean it is not possible to be exceptional at this age? Once you can read and comprehend everything, that's the job done, isn't it?

I suppose it depends if you know of a universal definition of "free reader" it means so many different things in different schools.
Once you can read and comprehend everything you've mastered the basics ...but an awful lot more to learn. Unfortunately in many schools that's the point reading stops being something we teach and becomes something we do (often badly).

I think people are confusing intelligence and a good education here.

I totally agree flower - correlation doesn't equal causation.

If you think about the demographics of this country and extrapolate your statements you're really saying some rather unpleasant things....

I must have an awful lot more to learn then! (very likely)

I can't tell the difference between my 6yo's ability to read and my own. Except she has a far greater understanding of phonics than I do!

What should she be learning next?

WhatTheActualFugg, if 6 year old's understanding of literature is as good as yours, your dd must be truly gifted.
My ds can read well, but my reading ability is still far better than him. And I'm not even native English speaker. (Although his maths skill is better than mine!)