year one book band

[prettyFLower23]

Hi
My DD is currently on ORT level 9.
What happens in year 2 once children finish the books?
Level 9 looks like expected for year 2, should I ask what additional support she'll be given for progression in year 2?

NB this is not a gloat thread, asking for feedback

The op never said her child was exceptional she said top 5% of an able cohort and merely had a query about reading progression for year two.
Why are people so negative? Why do people consider it appropriate to rank th ops child 'good but not exceptional' yet at the same time object that the teacher has given op an indication as to how she compares to peers. It's fine for Internet random to assess the ops child but not the teacher 😂

Encourage reading at home. My son is a summer born year 1 so still only 5. He is on ORT level 14 and they don't go higher than that in KS1. He is way above all the other kids and reads constantly. However.....he has the handwriting of a 2 yr old and can concentrate for about 3 milliseconds on anything other than a book!!! Reading level means fiddly squat IMO and love of reading is far more important and understanding the book. I help out with reading at school and the number of children who can read exceptionally well but have no idea of the story or what tricky words mean is huge. Yesterday's level 4 reader meanwhile spent 10 minutes elaborating on the story he had read and what he thought might happen in the next book in the series.........

The negativity is because of the weirdness of both deciding that a cohort is able simply because of the parents willingness to fake religious devotion and the weirdness of a school describing a pupil in a group of 30 being in the top 5% - which I would hope an able year 1 student would know is 1.5 kids - so it's a very odd phrasing when "she's the best in the class" gives the exact same information without the odd words.

If the school had referenced the entire population of year one kids across the country for their comparison it would be more useful.

From my single form not full primary year one class, two of the students ended up in the top 15 people in the gifted and talented classes of the massive secondary school. So one of them wasn't in the top 5% of the infant class, but was in the top 2% of the much larger secondary.

Ranking within classes gives no useful information. I can see why a teacher might tell it to people who fake religion to get into a school though.

DS is Y1, he got to level 10 and the scheme books stopped. More to the point, he stopped reading them. Instead, he reads Roald Dahl, Tintin and non fiction books (urgh, Spiders) from the library.

School send him to a particular box/shelf to choose his books.

In his class, some are still level 4, a few like him are free reading. Only 4 -5 of them (according to him as to who he goes to the shelf with).
In DD class at that point in Y1, around 15 of them were at this stage. So each year is very different.

From my experience with my older DD, she can read anything, understand a lot of things but she isn't interested in reading. I continually battle with getting her to read but she's not particularly engaged. So now your DD can read well, encourage as much reading as possible, regardless of the content. DD is flying at literacy regardless of her lack of reading.

I have bribed her to read BFG and then we will see the film. There's a trend here! 101 Dalmatians, Matilda (stage show). Thank goodness they turn children's books into shows and films!

mouldy, I didn't say op's dd wasn't excaptional. Being level 9 end of yr1 isn't.

exceptional.

Mishmash - my DS too cannot write or sit still but he's a very good reader (and speller when he's searching for some random stuff on google).

Dung; same here! Does well on spelling tests and always googling about the Solar system/ Amazon rainforest/ brachiosaurus; whichever is his topic of choice this week??!!

What is exceptional at end of year 1 then (out of interest) ?
I achieved level 5 at year 6 and level 7 at year 9 myself assume DD will be the same

Also who said I wasn't religious. I am. It just shows the pre-planning / educational focus of parents to make a concerted effort for education from babyhood onwards

Have you been to G & T board? You can read lots of examples of exceptional children.
At my ds's school, in his class, at least 3 children were above level9 end of YR1.
My ds might have been exceptional , level11 in spring of reception. Also, got lv4 for end of YR2.(Not for reading, other subject.)

"I achieved level 5 at year 6 and level 7 at year 9 myself assume DD will be the same "

I assumed you are talking about NC level, not book level?

What is exceptional at end of year 1 then (out of interest) ?
War and Peace

What does able cohort got to do with parents' background

A lot. A shed load. Just do the most minimal of research. OP is not being a snob, she's referring to a proven link

Enjoy, if level 9 was top of cohort, that doesn't make op's dd's cohort particularly an able cohort. At least not compared to my ds's school with mixed parents' background. At least 10% was at that level, with some exceeding even more.

It doesn't sound an able cohort, which is surprising given backgrounds. We're a very mixed area, lots aren't professionals, many fsm. My daughter was first in year 1 off the reading scheme but Im not sure if she'd be exceptional in another more affluent area. She's certainly bright but not off the scale so.

She was free reading within a term of year 1, as was her best friend. Pretty sure a good number were higher than 9 by the end of year 1. It may be just that they are dedicated to reading, or a good school perhaps. Would be surprised a school in an affluent area didn't have at least a few onto proper chapter books.

As it happens I don't think it matters too much when they "get" reading and within a few years what year they got which reading level becomes like the age they started to walk. For most children completely irrelevant!

As for what to do - just go to the library and encourage reading. I wouldn't bribe with movies etc just let them read what they want to. Sometimes it will be something "challenging" sometimes something "easy" and below their level but why not? They're young and it's what they fancy!

Wow mumsnet makes me
Paranoid sometimes !

Been told my DD is top 5% of class of children of professionals (doctors lawyers compliance barristers etc) yet most other people on this thread say their children were much further along at this stage (June) of year one.

Makes you wonder, maybe my DD has not progressed much and others are off the scheme already

I wouldn't be paranoid. She's doing fine and obviously enjoying reading. Just go with it and let her continue to enjoy reading!

Level 9 ORT isn't particularly unusual at the end of reception/beginning of Y1 so based on limited information of top 5% are reading at this standard at the end if Y1 ..

Most people on this thread (myself included) won't be representative of "most" children. But usually people with able readers within their own cohort.

Given your claims about the school it does seem odd regarding banding but it really isn't the big thing most parents think it is, just a convenient number to get obsessed over. The school may well be going slow than some academies that are target driven but in "poorer" areas. Despite my older child being able I'd still rather my younger one wasn't starting school so young and they held off "pushing" the children.

Think the issue for the op is that school are making the kids read every book in the book band hence the top readers are on a fairly normal level 9 for the end of year one. At other schools where they don't read every book in the band, they may be at a higher level

Op I would focus on getting interesting books from the library and not be too hung up on school books I think thr insist with on reading every book could be holding her back. At our school you can skip whole bands even or just read a couple of books in a band before you move on.

Main hing is she loves reading.

And also that those professional people would send their children to selective private school instead, if they are academically able, maybe?

Our school as I say had 2/3 of the class past level 11 by end year 1. Level 9 would have been in the bottom third of the class. I think it's because of them making op dd read every book on the level though.

DD is in Yr1 and has been on level 9 for a while. Her school don't like them to go above level 9 in Yr1. I have no idea why. I don't mind though as they have a wide range of books

covering fact & poetry as well as Biff, Chip & Kipper and it gives us a bit more time to read our own books at home.