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Teachers changing year groups

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Royaldada · 19/06/2016 12:43

Is it more common for KS2 teachers to teach different year groups every year than it is Rec/KS1.

The reason why I ask this is because apart from a change in job share teacher. Next year's Rec/KS1 teachers are the same as this year's but in KS2

A Yr 3 teacher will be teaching one Yr 5 class and a Yr 4 teacher will be teaching the other and both Yr 5 teachers will be in Yrs 3 and 4

Both Yr 6 teachers are the same

and I wondering if this common or not

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kitchenunit · 20/06/2016 19:25

Rafa was the White Rabbit perhaps an Arctic Hare?

TheTroubleWithAngels · 20/06/2016 19:29

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MauriceMoss · 20/06/2016 19:31

Stuck in Y6 here. I'll be leaving in a coffin, I suspect! Grin

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 20/06/2016 19:36

Yes, but doesn't the context change the lesson plan? I don't think that mrz was saying that she hasn't repeated the same skills and concepts, just not the exact same lessons/units.

If we add Arctic Monkeys we can probably add a tenuous music link to the topic kitchen. Grin

mrz · 20/06/2016 19:39

No kitchen unit but I have thought " oo that worked well last year so how can I adapt it to this group of children and their interests"

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mrz · 20/06/2016 19:48

I wouldn't want a student in Y2 or Y6 if I were the class teacher ... Sorry

mrz · 20/06/2016 19:50

I see context as "putting the meat on the bones of what is a very slim curriculum" making learning meaningful nothing fluffy at all

mrz · 20/06/2016 19:55

Perhaps you missed my post yesterday Thetroublewith angles

poster mrz Sun 19-Jun-16 18:57:52
The what you teach remains the same but the how can be different every single year ... Throw away your planning at the end of the summer term and start each year as if it is your first ...best advice I was ever given

Or perhaps just didn't understand?

Tanaqui · 20/06/2016 19:55

I love repeating topics- I think if you look at the year and say "yay, ancient Egypt again, what shall we do this time" then you should stay in that year group, when you look at it and go "omg it's Egypt again, someone save me" it's time for a change! (Yes I know you can change history topic, but under the old nat citric there had to be an ancient non European (or something like that), so you could get stuck in a cycle of Egypt/ Aztecs/ incas if you were unlucky/ had a poor whole school history curriculum)

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 20/06/2016 19:56

But the resources and organisation might not be. Which makes it a very different lesson.

And the children aren't the same either.

I suppose it's horses for courses really. And in many schools you probably aren't going to get much of a choice if the long term plan is very set in stone. I just don't think it's true that staying in the same year group has to be boring because you are teaching the same thing every year.

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HarveySchlumpfenburger · 20/06/2016 20:00

The new one pretty much says 'Egypt' doesn't it? So many different starting points and journeys there.

Agree that if you are thinking 'Oh no Egypt again,' it's time for a change.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 20/06/2016 20:04

IME, if you are in KS1, EYFS collecting resources is a bit of a habit.

They have a tendency to collect themselves before you plan the topic. Grin

mrz · 20/06/2016 20:06

You can say "yay Ancient Egypt" but it doesn't have to be the same as last year. You can use different texts, sources, activities etc.
I love looking for different ways and new texts

user789653241 · 20/06/2016 20:15

As a parent, I like the teacher experienced in that year group rather than teacher trying out new year group for experience or change.

CharleyDavidson · 20/06/2016 20:53

It's when you think 'Have I done this with this year's class, or was that last year?' that you are definitely in need of a change of scene re year group. Wink

mrz · 20/06/2016 21:11

😱😉

CharleyDavidson · 20/06/2016 22:03

[Grin]

CharleyDavidson · 20/06/2016 22:04

Grin even!

IoraRua · 20/06/2016 23:38

On a side note, are topics prescribed as part of the curriculum for the whole of England - i.e. must all Reception kids do Egypt/Vikings/whatever, or is it done by school/region/free choice? Never been too clear on that.
I've gotta say I'd hate being told what topic to cover, I like having my freedom to choose and to ensure strands are covered within my selected topics.

mrz · 21/06/2016 06:21

No

mrz · 21/06/2016 06:24

Sorry ...the curriculum prescribes what children must be taught. Teachers have the freedom to decide how

insancerre · 21/06/2016 06:35

Mrz
Do you do in the moment planning?

Are you on Facebook? There are some great groups on there, especially keeping early years unique

Does the hospital say to the surgeon " you've spent far too long operating on hearts, think it's time for a change. Next month, you are doing eyes"
No, because specialist skills and knowledge should be put to better use

mrz · 21/06/2016 06:48

I'm not on Facebook

Yes I can change my planning in the moment in response to the class needs. My planning is a working doc not set in stone ... I'm happy to change and scrap those resources I spent all weekend preparing if I think it would be better for my pupils

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