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The school are pushing / insisting on underpants.

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Jadenruby · 17/06/2016 18:02

I'm feeling so under pressure about this as the school are pressuring me to send my DS in underpants, he's still incontinent and although has an interest in the toilet he is unaware of his need to go. his gp and occupational therapist have both confirmed this but the school seem to be ignoring their input.

I'm not sure where to complain to or what to do to get the school to back off. He's 5 and just started the autism disorder assessments.

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Obeliskherder · 20/06/2016 09:20

pirate wow that is good! Is it the ERIC ones that hold a full wee?

PirateJones · 20/06/2016 09:42

yes and they can have a disposable pad inserted too, but they need to be changed quickly, sitting in them too long will leave wet patches on the trousers where they wick the wet.

Obeliskherder · 20/06/2016 10:03

Thanks Pirate that is really useful. I'd assumed they'd be more like "training" pants - a bit of plastic but minimal absorbency.

We're experimenting with Snuggleblanks for night time - DD hates dispo pullups with a passion these days.

honkinghaddock · 20/06/2016 10:35

Rainbows school sounded like a larger version of the inclusive mainstream ds used to attend ( much larger proportion than average of children with sn and or in nappies and many children not having dedicated 1:1's) so the comments implying she was making it up, may have been unfair.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 20/06/2016 13:29

the comments implying she was making it up, may have been unfair.
They were neither unfair or uncalled for.

honkinghaddock · 20/06/2016 13:58

I am not talking about her opinions. I have a child aged 9 still in nappies. But schools as she described do exist.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 20/06/2016 14:03

I am not talking about her opinions. I have a child aged 9 still in nappies. But schools as she described do exist.

Maybe, but she isn't a head teacher of one.

honkinghaddock · 20/06/2016 14:09

Her opinions sound like several of the staff of the one ds went to (which is why he isn't there anymore).

Jasonandyawegunorts · 20/06/2016 14:16

okay, you realise what she has said is statistically extremely unlikely (Not only having 10 children in nappies but 4 wheelchair users who also wear nappies), she doesn't know the law and her attitude is horrible?

Her school has 1000% more children in nappies than the rest of the UK. It would take over 10 average uk schools to match the one in her head.

How unlikely do you think it is to have 4 wheelchair users in one school?

Jasonandyawegunorts · 20/06/2016 14:19

Keep in mind that these 4 also fall into the tiny tiny percentage of nappy warers.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 20/06/2016 14:20

that shoudl read over 100 not over 10.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 20/06/2016 14:24

Even a dedicated special school would find it hard to match these numbers.

BackforGood · 20/06/2016 14:43

erm.... not disagreeing with you questioning what was said earlier, but, just fyi there is a Primary school near hear that has around 20 wheelchair users. It's because the school was very inclusive and got the funding to kit itself out with lifts, ramps , power assisted doors , changing facilities (hoists), etc., and (most importantly IMO) all the staff are used to having a dc who is a wheelchair - or walking frame - user in their class. They've thought about inclusive PE, for example, and trips, and 'productions', and also the dinner supervisors and all other support staff are used to having wheelchair users. Therefore, anyone looking for that sort of access, from miles around, applies to this school. It is 100% a mainstream school, but just a very accessible one that saves the local authority having to spend money on making all other local schools accessible.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 20/06/2016 14:47

Yes back but do those wheelchair users all wear nappies?
This is what limits the credibility, it reduces the already unbeliveable statistic even further.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 20/06/2016 14:52

Catheters are more likely.

BackforGood · 20/06/2016 15:04

I don't know them all that intimately Grin
That said, many of the children that go from Early Years, with mobility issues do go to school wearing nappies.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 20/06/2016 15:05

many of the children that go from Early Years, with mobility issues do go to school wearing nappies.

Rainbow said only 4 were in the foundation stage. none were the wheelchair users.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 20/06/2016 15:08

Not one has 1:1, 4 in wheelchairs, 2 with continence issues, under a paediatrician and 4 ASD in foundation stage.

4 with ASD in the foundation stage
4 in wheelchairs
2 with random "continence issues"

It's just not likely

ReallyTired · 20/06/2016 17:01

Many children In wheelchairs are continent. Lots of children in wheelchairs have a normal level of intelligence. Some wheelchair users grow up to get good qualification and earn well.

In someways mobile children with major learning needs are more work to look after. A child who has a mental age of 18 months, but is six foot tall and can out run a TA is a massive challenge to keep safe.

Many children with disablities have hidden disablities. It is not obvious by looking at them why they ar doublely incontinent. Children start school very early in the uk and many NT children are barely continent.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 20/06/2016 17:04

Many children In wheelchairs are continent

Exactly!

Jasonandyawegunorts · 20/06/2016 17:09

It's so obviously made up by someone who is clueless.

PirateJones · 20/06/2016 18:26

We should probably get back on track now that rainbow has left the thread.

PirateJones · 20/06/2016 18:27

We're experimenting with Snuggleblanks for night time - DD hates dispo pullups with a passion these days.

Are they any good, I've never used them?

PirateJones · 21/06/2016 11:12

How are things going OP?

Jadenruby · 21/06/2016 13:23

I think things are going okay, I'm just waiting for a phone call back now pirate. I will update when i find out more.

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