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Parental Bullying

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user1465394149 · 08/06/2016 15:13

check this out, sent today from a fellow parent............................

Dear all (friends, acquaintances and others),

It’s with genuine sadness that I have to tell you all that we’re leaving the school and moving away at the end of this term.

We’ve made some great friends, had really good times and we’ve grown very fond of many of you. Our son has also made some lovely little chums amongst your children.

It will be sad to not see you as much in the future but we’ll try our best.

I myself feel gutted about this so let me tell you all the reason for us leaving if you don’t already know:

Say that if one of our kids had been subjected to intimidation in the playground by a group of other children – the passive-aggressive finger-pointing/giggling/staring variety of intimidation – we’d go and see the Head, wouldn’t we? (Especially if this behaviour were continual.)

We’d expect the Head to tell that group of children that they were bullying our little one and the Head would stop it. And the Head would also extract the ringleader and mete out a suitable punishment.

And we’d all agree that this would be right because – as we all know – bullying and intimidation are wrong. It’s unfair and it’s cowardly. (The group around the ringleader are the biggest cowards of all, in a way, because they fear that they themselves will be the next victim if they don’t join in.)

So if this had happened to one of our kids we’d quite rightly be furious.

But us moving away has nothing to do with our child. He has not been bullied and the school has done nothing wrong.

If fact he loves the school and he loves his friends. He doesn’t want to leave. But we don’t have a choice. Not really.

Because when you witness - as I have first-hand – a playground containing a cackling, finger-pointing, staring group of half a dozen supposedly mature, well-educated women performing this classic tactic of passive-aggressive intimidation of another woman – my wife in this case – then it’s jaw-dropping. Unbelievable. Not what you’d expect at all from such people.

And when your wife makes friends who then become too scared to remain friends because of that group of women, what would you make of that?

And when you see the occasional woman in the playground, neither of you have ever met before, look at your wife in an angry way and shake her head for no obvious reason, how would that make you feel?

This has been happening for well over a year now, growing rather than fading away, and it is bound to end very badly for someone if it isn’t stopped.

But there is no Head to appeal to. It’s not the school’s business.

No crime can be proved (slander is notoriously hard to prosecute but we came close) so there will be no justice for us in the short term. The verbal spread of lies and rumours is difficult to stop.

So – you know what – life’s too short. I can’t stomach seeing my wife in bits and losing sleep over all of this anymore so I’ve made this decision to leave.

We’re sorry to our friends. We feel we’ve let you down in a way but let’s remain friends as much as we can.

The rest of this note is not addressed to our friends and acquaintances but to those of you - and of course you know who you are because everybody else does – whose actions and gossip-mongering have led us to this point:

Firstly…..congratulations! You’ve won! You should be very, very proud.

Pat yourselves on the back.

You’ve managed to run us out of town (us dastardly criminals us) for the crime of……well…...nothing.

I don’t know what we’ve done or what we’ve said to hurt you this much. Actually we’ve done some of you favours. We’ve helped you when you needed help. We didn’t ask for anything in return. (We were never going to.)

Either of us would apologise to you if we’ve caused you harm or offence but that’s not it, is it?

I know what it really is. Everyone reading this knows what it really is. You know what it really is…..

It’s the fact that we exist. It’s that green-eyed monster. (Bless him.)

Go on, admit it.

You’ve won now, so what harm could it do? Shout it from the roof-tops. The green-eyed monster has won!

One of you (it’s irrelevant to name her but you’ll discover what sort of person she really is, eventually, since my wife is just another in a long line of her targets) has encouraged that monster – lying dormant inside each of you – to incorporate. But you let her do that. She might be the ringleader but you joined in and you enjoyed it.

And do you know; you’re famous as well?

Your little group has earned itself the nickname “the Nasties” and this has nothing to do with us and nothing to do with anyone in this school year. I’m sure you already know this but…..everybody knows what you’re doing.

That’s right. Everybody knows who you are and what you’ve been doing. That playground and Waitrose is filled with other parents watching and listening and you’re not exactly being secret-agent-covert about your behaviour, are you? They’ve nicknamed you.

Not only that, one of you has in fact been telling us the kinds of things being said by the rest of you. Charming stuff, it has to be said. I am often fascinated and disappointed by how infantile grown-ups can be.

Perhaps there will be consequences for you after all and we’ll receive some kind of justice? Who knows? I can only hope.

For Mummy and me this move is a modest inconvenience. That’s all, really. A move to another town.

But for those of you that have any sliver of decency in you, please remember something for me?

Perhaps, before you go to sleep tonight, imagine how the face of a smiling, innocent, slightly-sensitive five year old boy crumples and collapses and his eyes glisten when Daddy tells him that his adorable boy – who has done nothing wrong at all - has to move away and leave his friends.

And I can’t even give him the honest reason why, so I’ve had to lie to him.

So I despise you for making me do that.

And you’ve hurt my wife. Repeatedly. On purpose. I will not forget that and I will not forgive you.

You are shameless bullies and brazen hypocrites and I sincerely hope that your own children, for whom I wish long and happy lives, turn out much, much better than you and eventually learn your true nature. You do not deserve them and they definitely deserve better than you.

Since you have inconvenienced me, I am happy to inconvenience you. Please give your husbands or partners a copy of this note and give them the heads-up. I will speak to them each in turn to let them know what’s happened. So go on, give them your side of the story first.

Also, now it’s all out in the open, don’t try to approach me or my wife during the remainder of our time here. Don’t try to explain. Don’t try to apologise. Don’t ask me if this bit of the note is aimed at you: if you have to ask then you already know.

Just leave us alone as we will you. You’ve won now, so sod off.

Our leaving probably won’t stop you now turning your attention to someone else but perhaps the realisation of what many others now think of you might.

And please, please do not come to our son’s party. Your kids and your husbands are welcome but our generosity no longer extends to you and I will turn you away. Save us all the embarrassment.

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Grumpysfirstwife · 11/06/2016 14:17

These sorts of mums can be absolutely awful. I hope that they get on better wherever they're moving to.

I've been on the receiving end of such nastiness and when they got bored with little reaction from me I've witnessed them turn their attention to others.

Its bloody difficult to ignore it and not allow it to worry you. I don't go to PTFA meetings because it's mainly those mums on the committee, I rarely help at school or on trips again because they volunteer most at the school it's really heartbreaking to actively avoid your children's school just so you don't have to put yourself in any situation where you could be on the receiving end of the bitchiness.

These women do exist at most schools in varying degrees of nastiness but I'm sure that writing a letter to them won't make a blind bit of difference because they won't think it's aimed at themselves.

EbyBum · 11/06/2016 20:36

I'm on the receiving end of this kind of treatment at the moment as a reaction to my decision to remove my DD from the school. Despite my DS staying our actions seem to have been interpreted as a betrayal and we have been completely ostracised. It's a tiny school and with hindsight we had become way to involved with the other families so that when our DD was no longer happy and we gave notice it was taken very personally by the parents of her classmates.

Kennington · 11/06/2016 20:43

How does this even happen? I drop off and pick up and rarely see or speak to anyone. These are people who should not waste time at the school gates!

Floggingmolly · 11/06/2016 20:48

I don't get it either. How can you actually spend more than five minutes at the school gate, unless you intentionally stop to have a natter?

EbyBum · 11/06/2016 21:49

Our school says it's a community (cult)-there are only about 80 children. The parents are invited to assemblies, matches, music stuff, poetry recitals etc and then things for the parents-quiz nights, dinners etc so it's not just at the gates. Clearly you have a choice to take part if you're able to and most parents seem to so over the years it all gets a bit incestuous and if you're perceived to fuck up it can feel pretty shit when it seems everyone turns on you. I shall not be making the same mistake at the new school! I wouldn't send an email like that but I have empathy for them-when you're frozen out you just want some kind of right of reply.

Fairenuff · 12/06/2016 20:56

I think it's a dramatic response. Surely she could just ignore them whilst she drops off and picks up? Shame to move the boy when there's no guarantee that the next school will be any better.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 12/06/2016 21:47

I was told to ignore the people who bullied me when I was at school, and it didn't help at all - every instance of being ignored/excluded/name-calling chipped away a bit more of my self esteem until there was none left - and that has had a lasting negative effect on the rest of my life.

prettybird · 12/06/2016 22:10

{{{Hugs}}} STDG - you shouldn't have had to suffer that SadAngry

Ds' primary school had a zero tolerance approach to bullying - and a very scary but actually lovely Winkdepute who dealt with it (she had/has a knack of getting the children to admit to what they were doing and that it was wrong and that she'd be watching them).

It's a shame we don't have access to someone like that as adults Grin.

For my latter years in my old job I was working for a bully and the layer above him was also a bully and HR were just there to support the managers and mitigate damage when people resigned through stress and it took me years after I left to even think about working for an organisation again Sad

Jackie0 · 12/06/2016 22:17

It's a tad long.
Unless it's your letter I'm not sure you should be posting this at all actually.

disappoint15 · 12/06/2016 22:25

I'm not entirely sure I believe it. I do believe parents can be exclusive and I'm sure there are some really horrible people around. But to move because of this? And what is the jealousy about? The letter is really confusing. Is she very beautiful? Is her child on level 37 of the reading scheme? Are they really rich?

MsAdorabelleDearheartVonLipwig · 12/06/2016 23:12

I would say that letter was written by a self-obsessed neurotic who half the parents at that school probably couldn't give a shit about. The other half probably recognised the daft batshit behaviour and called her on it. Her husband enables her snowflake personality and they thrive on the drama that mostly exists inside their head.

That said, there's definitely one or two parents at our school who like to put their noses in the air and ignore anyone not in their special group. I like to greet them enthusiastically and force an acknowledgement from them. I like to think that it winds them up that they have to talk to me and that I don't give a shit about their snotty behaviour.

You get your entertainment where you can. Grin

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 12/06/2016 23:23

Thank you, prettybird. Thanks

exWifebeginsat40 · 12/06/2016 23:30

he sure said a mouthful.

CookieDoughKid · 13/06/2016 18:49

I'm extremely saddened to read this letter. And if I was a recipient who wasn't involved I would be giving this family a hug and well wishes for the future. This reads very truthfully IMO. Honestly, if I was a parent of this year group I would be ashamed.

EssentialHummus · 13/06/2016 19:05

But with no actual examples of how the letter writer's wife has been bullied?

^This. I've read the fecking thing twice now and I still don't see what has actually happened to make the letter writer's wife feel bullied.

BaboonBottom · 13/06/2016 19:18

They lost me at jealous.
But I can absolutely believe it can and does happen (not the jealous but). The feeling of exclusion is awful and you have to face it twice a day. So you spend all day being anxious waiting. It's exhausting. Let alone add any actual nastiness to that. I wouldn't and haven't moved my kids because of it, they do miss out as they don't go to the school fete etc as I can't face it (despite my councillor doing her best) they also don't get invited on play dates or parties - it's me not them I KNOW that.
But I wouldn't make them suffer by moving them, that's not fair.

starry0ne · 13/06/2016 19:28

I am left wondering why you posted this OP...

I can imagine this been discussed on the Wright stuff stuff.

Cantsleepwontsleep123 · 14/06/2016 21:09

I'm taking it you wrote this OP?

nousernames · 14/06/2016 21:45

If this is true, he's going to tell on them to their husbands!!! Shock

IamAporcupine · 17/06/2016 00:54

I want to know why the OP posted this!

TealLove · 17/06/2016 01:23

Unless that is the buildup of a year of shit which may be understandable in a mad moment. The guy who wrote that is seriously unstable. It could have been ok but he goes off on this " jealous" rant that makes him look very silly.
Poor child though.

houseeveryweekend · 17/06/2016 01:28

If this letter is correct thats very sad however i always feel like there must be something else going on whenever i see stuff like this. Like perhaps the wife is depressed and has other issues. The only people i have ever heard speak like this about other adults had mental health issues. Now i may get completely flamed here but thats just what i feel when i see some of these things about school gate mums bullying. Im sure there are some low key passive agressive mums at the school gate but you just ignore them, you arent actually in school with them you are a grown adult just walk off. Theres many reasons soemone may shake their head and look angry when walking past you and 99% of them may have nothing to do with you! Its like when you hear people laughing on the bus and if you are having a bad day the thought enters your head that they might be laughing at you but if you are in a good place then you think they are just laughing amongst themselves..... if you are feeling vulnerable or have low self esteem you may interpret peoples actions negatively that does not make them bullies. Everyone has got their own stuff going on, especially school gate mothers who are probably all stressed and tired and thinking of all the stuff they have to do. Sometimes people are cold to you or they seem to ignore you or they are looking angry what is the point in thinking its about you? Seriously people arent actually all against you and if you are starting to think they are you perhaps need some rest and to see your GP because its a sign of serious depression. That letter is so accusatory and angry and im sure that both man and wife truely believe what they are saying but is it likely that the whole year of mums in that school has turned against one mum? i mean whos actually got the time to turn against anyone? and even if there was some lone mentalist mother who was a bully its just not very likely that ALL the mums including actual friends of the wife would be so afraid of her that they turned against the wife. I really think theres other stuff going on here. I, nor no one i know, nor 90% of the people ive met as an adult would ever bully someone as indicated in this letter and so im having a had time believing that every single mother in that year has done it to that wife.

houseeveryweekend · 17/06/2016 01:31

Yes i agree with other posters that the letter just reads in a way that seems a bit unhinged and i do feel very sorry for the child. Well actually i feel sorry for the man and wife as well obviously they are in a lot of pain but i dont think they are going to solve it by writing letters like this.

TealLove · 17/06/2016 01:47

Spot on post house

Cantsleepwontsleep123 · 17/06/2016 22:42

Op maybe come back to talk things over?

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