Resit Y6 tests in Y7

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Just wondering how many parents of children in Y6 are aware that they will be resitting the tests in Y7 if they fail them?

We still don't the fail / pass mark yet, but I'm not sure how widely the government has shared this information with schools.

Any thoughts?

MRZ - those 5 GCSEs need to include maths and English. That's what that statistic is measuring.

Thanks for giving your permission ...

Yes Salty but can you tell from those statistics if the child achieved English and Maths or just that they didn't achieve five?

Do you think there are a significant number of students who get c+ on maths and English but little else? Where are they? Outside both 5 including and 5 excluding doesn't leave a lot of space for them to be found in.

In 2015 the expectation was for a child to make 3 levels progress between KS2 and KS4 those results suggest secondaries weren't meeting those expectations. If you want to apply them as indicative of progress in English and Maths rather than five

Salty I know. We used to do the Suffolk Reading test though and there was often a clear correlation between SATs Reading Test scores and Reading Age (knowledge of words in context). Pupils at 5a often had reading ages of 13/14 years. Reading ages of 8-9 roughly correlated to low level 4/level 3

I reported what secondary colleagues said but you disagree

Dyslexic students often got Level 5 in the SAT but Level 3 in English.

For a student getting level 3 at KS2, anything better than an E at GCSE is "expected progress".

www.education.gov.uk/schools/performance/archive/schools_10/s11.shtml

those results suggest secondaries weren't meeting those expectations

Why? Pupils with a 4 at KS2 are more likely than not to get 5 A*-C. Pupils with 3 are unlikely to. Which is hardly the secondary schools' fault, because grade C is substantially above "expected progress".

*Level 5 in the Maths SATs

KS2 to KS4 transition matrix data for 2015 can be found here:

www.raiseonline.org/OpenDocument.aspx?document=390

The stats I quoted above used an average point score for KS2. If you go to the end tab (all TMs - percentages) and down to the bottom it shows also progression for Maths based on maths KS2 score only, and English based on English KS2 score only.

thanks noble

From the link giraffe provided, 13/22/36% of 3c/b/a pupils got C or better in English, 6/16/29% of 3 c/b/a pupils for C or better in Maths. So that puts a ceiling of 29% on 3a pupils getting C or better in both. For 3a/b/c taken together it's 19% getting C or better in maths, 26% in English, so a ceiling of 26% getting both (in each case, the ceiling assumes the unlikely case where everyone who gets a C in the more frequent case also does so in the less frequent case).

Equates to 16500+ pupils who convert level 3 into A-C grade

There's a petition to scrap the Y7 SATs resits which I imagine many would be interested in signing, but because it's in the petitions section probably haven't seen it.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/petitions_noticeboard/2653247-Year-7-Resits-Petition

Thanks noble.