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Needing help to sovle a safty school matter in my daughter school

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nona34 · 04/11/2015 09:17

Dear mums I want your help, my daughter went in a school trip to the forest with her school I sent her with her rain coat, gloves and scarf after she back home and saw the trip pictures we found that she didn't wear her rain coat just a school jumper four hour under the rain and she is only 6 years old, so we report this matter to school but we want to take formal action and transfer her to anther school could any one help me how to report this should I contact the school governor or county council, Thank you.

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ThenLaterWhenItGotDark · 04/11/2015 09:19

Erm. Just tell your daughter to put her coat on next time?

How do you know she didn't wear the coat for the whole time?

Is it really a "formal action" and "transfer" issue?

DoreenLethal · 04/11/2015 09:20

Could you pick up the phone first and ask what happened?

Of course I am not a mum so I may not be much use to you.

Finola1step · 04/11/2015 09:23

The first thing is to ask your DD why she didn't put her coat on.

Then ask the class teacher what happened.

AnnaMarlowe · 04/11/2015 09:27

Just tell your child to put her coat on before outdoor activities.

It's not a 'safety' issue

scatterthenuns · 04/11/2015 09:27

We want to take formal action and transfer her to anther school

What a massive massive overeaction. She'd have put her coat on if she'd wanted to wear it.

MarthasHarbour · 04/11/2015 09:34

First of all you might find that some dads and child-free MNers may also be able to assist you.

I however am a mum, and think you are massively overreacting. For all the reasons given above.

Have a read of some other threads to see why 'mums' and dads remove their children from school, engage the school governors and county council FFS You may find a bit of perspective and-a grip

bigmouthstrikesagain · 04/11/2015 09:38

I do think this is an issue. I have been a school governor and have helped out on primary school trips. You have a high ratio of helpers with 6 yos. My experience has been that children are sent to put on coats scarves etc. Before we leave and that it would be highly unusual that a child would leave the school without a coat on for an outdoor trip in November. There is not enough information in the open to judge if the children had opportunities to take their coats of while they were out of if the coat was left on a mini bus or actually left behind. If there are other concerns you have about the school then that is different, but solely on this incident I would not remove a child. I would first raise it with the class teacher, then if not happy escalate to the head and after that the chair of the school governors, the details of how to contact them will be on the school website.

nightsky010 · 04/11/2015 09:38

If you live in Siberia then fair enough. But if you're in the UK then...

If DD has a developmental / other disorder which may impact on her ability to realise she is cold / put a coat on then I think you should gently raise it with the school as a 'small problem', but otherwise, maybe YOU need to teach her to put her coat on when it rains?

You'd seriously transfer her to a different school over this?! If that is seriously your attitude then maybe you'd find it easier to get a private tutor who you can instruct in the correct procedures yourself? I just can't see school working out very well for you otherwise!

how long has she been at this school for?

lifesalongsong · 04/11/2015 10:06

My child went on a trip recently and came home wet saying that I hadn't sent waterproofs.

I asked what he thought the items in the bag with the walking boots were and he looked blankly at me. Did I ring the school immediately and ask why all bags weren't checked? No, I said you need to look better next time if you don't want to get wet.

By all means ask the teacher to find out the system for putting on coats but anything more than that would be a vast overreaction

Floggingmolly · 04/11/2015 10:13

What "formal action" do you intend to take??
Start by telling your child to put their coat on when it rains...

PatriciaHolm · 04/11/2015 10:20

Formal action?

There is no formal action to take. Assuming you have mentioned it to school, and said that you expect next time for her to be reminded to take/keep her coat on, that's it.

If you actually want to move her, talk to the LEA. But they can only offer a space if one happens to exist in another school, they won't make a space for you. Plus if this is your only issue, another school isn't going to solve the problem - sooner or later they will do something you disapprove of too (kids going out at playtime without coats happens at all schools!)

Jhm9rhs · 04/11/2015 10:23

I'd be unhappy too, but I think you'd be best served speaking to your DD (if you haven't already) and trying to work out why she wasn't wearing her coat, and if it was for the whole time or just a bit of the time. Were the other children in the pictures dressed properly?

If you're still worried, you could just ask her class teacher in a friendly way what happened and how you can help your DD remember to dress appropriately at school.

I don't think going any further would be either appropriate or effective.

Only1scoop · 04/11/2015 10:24

Blimey

Dd missed swimming yesterday as she carried the wrong pe kit over to pool.

Maybe I should formally complain

DoreenLethal · 04/11/2015 10:34

Here's a thought:
Child comes home from activity and you look at photos together.
you - did you not wear your coat as it was raining
child - no
you - ok, well in future, wear your coat, that's what it is for.

End of problem.

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nona34 · 04/11/2015 10:58

Thank you all for your replay

The school trip was in 21 of October the temp 9c and this day there is heavy rain.

my daughter is asthmatic.

she remember her coat on the school gate but she has been told not back and bring it.

the school didn't inform me of the incident I saw her picture in slide show the school put online for the trip.

she has been kept wet under the rain for 4 hours in her cotton jumper.

this is not the first time my daughter came through neglecting and we discuses the matter with school principle 3 previous time 3 different incident without any improvement.

Thanks a lot for your help and support

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nona34 · 04/11/2015 11:09

bigmouthstrikesagain Thank you for your support actually we took already the first to steps several time and we now writing to the governor.

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nona34 · 04/11/2015 11:16

The last thing I want to add that .
I already have weather forecast report for that day in this area,
sec the picture show clearly my daughter very wet and all adults and other school wearing heavy coat and umbrella.
and the most important thing that they didn't accept that she back and bring her coat in school gate and this is a trip not only outdoor activities.

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nona34 · 04/11/2015 11:19

and please if am missing any details am happy to answer so you can have the full picture.

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scatterthenuns · 04/11/2015 11:21

Nona, did you ask your daughter why she wasn't wearing her coat?

Sounds like she refused to, to me. I fail to see why teachers would ensure everybody was in their coat apart from your daughter.

PatriciaHolm · 04/11/2015 11:30

I still don't quite understand. She had her coat but forgot to take it on the trip? Or they refused to allow her back into school to get it?

How come you didn't notice on the day that she came home wet? Didn't she mention it? What does she say happened?

Deliberately letting a 6 year old spend 4 hours in the pouring rain would be bad, obviously, but I very much doubt that happened. Especially given you didn't notice on the day and your DD didn't tell you.

DoreenLethal · 04/11/2015 11:31

and please if am missing any details

No - clear as mud.

So - why wasn't your daughter wearing her coat?

bearleftmonkeyright · 04/11/2015 11:32

I also think its an issue, I would talk to the class teacher. As BigMouth says there is a high ratio of helpers with 6 yolds and I am pretty stunned that this happened. Am I right in assuming from your post that your DD did not have a coat with her for the trip and was not allowed to go back for it when she was on the coach?

Finola1step · 04/11/2015 11:32

Can I just clarify something? Your daughter went to school with her coat. The class were leaving for the trip and as she got to the gate, she remembered that she left the coat inside. She wanted to go and get it but wasn't allowed. She then had to spend the duration of the trip in just her jumper.

Have I got this right?

bearleftmonkeyright · 04/11/2015 11:34

Its not difficult if you are a member of staff to make sure that a child has their coat on. I work as a midday and we take them out to play in all weathers but only if they have coats on. Its part and parcel of what you do.

balletgirlmum · 04/11/2015 11:34

Im sorry I don't quite understand. Not sure what the reference to the gate is.

Was your daughter told she was not allowed to take her coat? Or did she forget it & no one noticed until after they had departed for the trip.

How old is your daughter. I would be cross if a 5 year old was not reminded to put her cost on but would assume a 10 year old should be responsible barring special needs.

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