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Exceeding all ELGs in Reception

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TheBakeryQueen · 12/07/2015 15:57

How common is this?
Has anyone's child exceeded all ELGs in reception & how are they doing now?

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NotWorkingOut · 12/07/2015 21:54

I don't think I'd worry hopeful , especially with him just having turned 5! They all develop at their own little rates and as has been said already, it does depend on the teacher how they judge it too!

NotWorkingOut · 12/07/2015 21:55

And what bobajob said!

Tillyscoutsmum · 12/07/2015 21:55

DS has just received all exceeding in his report. I had no idea it was so rare tbh Shock (primary school teacher as well Confused)

HopefulHamster · 12/07/2015 21:56

I know bobajob, was having a paranoid moment! Doesn't help when you know some FB braggers!

mamaslatts · 12/07/2015 21:57

Noisytoys - my Ds has got expected in most areas except reading, writing and numeracy Hmm but has spent the year 'widening his circle of friends and pretending to serve them pizza' Grin he was only 5 last month so not too stressed about it. They are still very young at this age and some aren't ready for certain things just yet. Smile

flashbunny73 · 12/07/2015 22:05

Dear Hopeful, I wouldnt have worried but I would have been surprised but it depends on your child. DD is midway in the year but has v good social skills and is reading well for her age so I would have been surprised if she had all 'meets expectations'. There are August children in her class who are still on the 1+ book bands and there is one child with speech problems which would make several of the categories more challenging for him. So I guess it depends on your child? If you see the link the 'average' is all 'meets expectations' so this is by no means a bad thing. Also its very subjective - it depends on how your son's teacher scores (generous / not so generous) and how well they know your child and how your child behaves at school (he may be shy??). Hope this helps. If in doubt go and speak to the teacher?

flashbunny73 · 12/07/2015 22:08

Also the report indicates a significant gap between boys and girls - girls outscore boys on everything... ;-)

Clutterbugsmum · 12/07/2015 22:25

It depends on the of the age of the child.

My dd2 was exceeding most area's on reception and finished with 2a's in all area's at the end of yr 1. Now at the end of yr 2 she got all level 3's, with 100% on her maths paper.

Yes she is very bright, loves to learn, but her birthday is the beginning of September. So she benefited from 2 years at nursery.

SukiBambuki · 12/07/2015 22:42

DS2 was 5 in March and only got 3 exceeding in maths, reading and knowledge of the world, the rest were average. Naturally I am biased, but I would have said he is exceeding in many other categories as he's an extremely social, verbal, well adjusted and physical little boy, way more so than his brother at the same age. No idea where/how they make these judgements, especially against the softer goals which are hugely subjective, but I'm not too worried as he's performing well and is happy at school.

HopefulHamster · 12/07/2015 22:50

Thanks flashbunny. He refused to even learn letters before school, but loves his teacher and has done well with phonics, but not with turning his sounds into reading. It just hasn't clicked with him yet if you know what I mean? He is also a shy child, who is not particularly physically confident.

His teacher has always made it clear that he's very confident with creative ideas though. If they're wondering how to do stuff in class, he always comes up with something they can try.

I'm not super worried as such, but I loved to read as a child and wish I could instil that love in him. He likes being read to, but hates the effort of sounding out words etc.

I think I need to do some gentle work over the holidays with him. I'm on maternity leave so no excuse really!

Heels99 · 12/07/2015 23:03

These measures are only used in reception. They are not used after that.
Chillax everyone. Many slow starters in reception really pick up the pace in year one and two. Many quick starters slow down in terms of rate of progress. Literacy and numeracy and science become more important. You do not get formally measured again for PE, art, technology, music in KS1, other than normal school report comments. Your child may one day win Olympic gold medal. You will be unlikely to be able to identify this at KS1.
Support your kids, let them flourish, don't be over anxious. Worried parents hot housing their kids are not going to produce confident young people.
Let them enjoy extra curricular things, a love of chess, dancing, riding, tennis, swimming, karate, drama, singing, golf or whatever may stay with your child through life and long after ABCs. Make Tim for th things your child loves even if you don't share heir love of that activity.

MrsHathaway · 12/07/2015 23:07

Totally understand about it clicking. With DS he didn't bother trying until he suddenly realised that if he could read, he could read whatever he wanted. Not just Biff, Chip and Kipper but his comic and the back page of the paper and so on, and not just when someone else was there to read it for him.

Once he'd decided to learn he did so apace contrary sod.

It'll come. I wonder if you might find yourself a little slow to respond sometimes and drop in the odd "ah well, when you can read for yourself ..."

MrsHathaway · 12/07/2015 23:08

Amen Heels!

Enb76 · 12/07/2015 23:16

Mine did in Foundation and did again in Y1 but she's one of the oldest in her year so she has that head start. She's bright and works hard, long may it continue.

HopefulHamster · 12/07/2015 23:29

Don't really need a 'chillax' as not going to be hot-housing anyone, was just thinking out loud that may need to continue his reading over the summer a little. Working (gently!) on his confidence has always been more important to me. I tend to think that's what can make a difference with some of the summer born.

madwomanbackintheattic · 12/07/2015 23:35

Is this a 'how clever is my kid nationally?' Thread?

I had a 5yo test as brighter than something like 99.99% of peers in a full assessment. No idea what her ELGs said, it wasn't really important.

She couldn't walk and was statemented for communication. She was still working up to 7-12 years ahead of expected goals in some areas.
In y1 we were told she couldn't be coded as gifted because her handwriting wasn't good enough. Grin
How we laughed.
I'm not sure I would use exceeding ELGs as a measure of too much, as they are all pretty subjective, but it's lovely to be reassured that everything is going well.
Does she like school? Is she having fun?

futureme · 12/07/2015 23:46

I was super bright. Honestly, top in the year at grammar school, oxbridge etc. I dont think my parents had a clue how i did nationally at infants. I really wouldnt worry....

Id echo devloping skills outside school, activities and playing rather than extra work (but then we intentionally chose a school with v little homework.)

tobysmum77 · 13/07/2015 05:46

It really does depend on the school. There was a poster on.here 12 months ago whose ds got all exceeding and she was totally Confused about it. Even worse he was moving schools and they were going to be expecting her slightly above average ds to be a child genius... it was a great thread. Expected is what they are meant to get. They develop at different rates and are still tiny. It's amazing what they've all learnt in their 5 years.

Heels99 · 13/07/2015 07:29

The library summer reading challenge is always fun with lots of reading rewards along the way.

Clutterbugsmum · 13/07/2015 08:25

Meant o add, but forgot last night.

DS1 is in yr 1 and has struggled with reading and I refused to make him read every night because it them becomes a big battle, I've taken it at his pace and I can honestly say it until this April and he has really flown with his reading since then and is now where he should be at the year end.

LL0015 · 13/07/2015 10:07

Hoping my DS is like Mrs Hathaways

He just turned 5. He has Exceeded in all the social aspects, listening, understanding, speaking, self confidence, managing feelings, making relationships, people and the world.

He has Expected in all the academic ones and tech, art etc.

Now for him to pull his smart but bouncy, funny, chatty finger out !

Interestingly, our school has also added a wheel like measurement for Age Related Expectation. Clearly they assessed them against their age in months. He is Above Expectation for every single category on that. So I am adding myself to the proud bunch.

Does anyone know what this wheel like measurement is?

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TheBakeryQueen · 13/07/2015 10:27

Thanks everyone for your comments. Some interesting thoughts.

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GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 13/07/2015 12:37

My DD got 16/17 exceeding. She is now end of Y2 and I'm waiting to see how well she has done at end KS1. 17/17 is pretty rare, although will be more common in some schools than others (my DD is doing well but not top of the class I'd say).

I'm waiting to hear how DS has got on in reception too. DC's school seem to hold back on school reports until the very last minute for some reason.

sneepy · 13/07/2015 13:18

I have 2 summer born dds. I don't think either of them got any exceedings in reception! Dd1 is finishing y4 at the top of her year in maths. Dd2 (hasn't turned 7 yet) is doing just fine as well. I will be surprised if she doesn't have a few 3s when her report comes.

I just don't think that you can tell what a child's academic career is going to be when they are 4/5. Dd2 wasn't yet 5 on her last day of reception--she would have had to be very exceptional to be at the same levels as children nearly a year older.

Bumpsadaisie · 13/07/2015 15:47

In YR so much of it is actually developmental rather than anything "fixed" about your child's talents.

In YR my eldest got exceedings for all the academic stuff, but only emergings for the the PE/Games and Listening/Concentrating stuff.

She was just too little to realise she was supposed to be sitting up and switched on all the time. Often she was away with the fairies. Likewise she found doing games with a load of rowdy boys in a big sports hall scary.

Just had her Y1 report and though she isn't the best in the class for the physical stuff by any means, the teachers have all commented how much she has changed in terms of her enthusiasm and ability to focus. She enjoys all the PE and games now. Likewise, several of her friends who got emerging for the academic side, have finished Year 1 exceeding, as it has just "clicked" for them.

Its a rare child who can exceed in every area at once! What your childs YR report says may very well not translate in what happens in future years. So don't despair if it looks like your child is "behind" and likewise don't get too excited if it looks like they are "ahead"!