Exceeding all ELGs in Reception

[TheBakeryQueen]

How common is this?
Has anyone's child exceeded all ELGs in reception & how are they doing now?

I think it's all very subjective tbh, some schools/teachers will be more lenient than others. I do think MrsH is right with what she says about the baseline and evening out though! My DCs are autumn term babies too which I do think makes a difference at this age.

2013/14 nationally 2.2% of girls and 1% of boys achieved exceeding in all areas

Thank you mrz!

www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/364021/SFR39_2014_Text.pdf

Hi I know I don't quite meet the criteria you asked for of all exceeding - daughter got all exceeding except one in the area of exploring and using media and materials (songs music and dance are not her forte as she is self conscious).

I wasn't expecting such a good outcome as teacher hadn't really given any indication thus far, and to be fair I also didn't really pay much attention to the mid year mini report back then. Have focussed more on making sure she is happy and enjoying things. It's only after talking to a teacher friend that I've realised she's done quite well.

Can anyone on this thread give me some advice about what to expect in the next school year? Will my daughter be given work to ensure she maintains this level or is this not the done thing? I'm slightly worried she will just be ignored a little if she is already at a good enough level. Is there anything in particular I need to ask year 1 teacher next year?

I don't know about levels that I've seen mentioned elsewhere. Can someone explain that to me too? I'm obviously not thinking I have a child genius or anything, just keen to know what best approach is for next year or if I can rely on school to take it all on board. We go to a state primary, daughter is about middle of the year age wise. Thanks.

Agree their age makes a huge difference to reception levels!

Thank you Mrz, that's brilliant.

How much work at home do people do with their children? Our DD got 11/17 exceedings which I was pleased with. Expected in both Maths, ICT, one of the physical ones and both imaginative / arty ones. We spend about 10-20mins per day reading and she is in the top 3 out of 17 in her class for reading (v small school). I figure learning to read is a key cornerstone. Her Dad is teaching her some basic french! But I haven't spent that much time on Maths and PE. We do lots of arts and crafts. So how much time are people exceeding on all fronts spending? I am just wondering how much time I should be spending and whether children will be left with any time to just 'play'???? ;-)

Flashbunny I think you're doing lots already & I really would just continue as you are as long as she is happy.

We've just had DD1's Y2 report back. She had 3's across the board and has been described as one of the brightest children they have ever taught. She didn't get all exceeding at reception - but this was due to the social aspect...

Mavey if the school is any good at all then your child will be stretched.

Often it looks like a class is all doing the same work, but if you look closer then one table is using a cut up circle to add quarters (1/4+1/4=1/2) while another table is adding 2/5 to 9/10 and working out what that is as a decimal. Or they're all writing about their trip to the zoo but one table is trying to get three sentences with the right capitals and full stops, and another table needs to fill the page and remember to use interesting adjectives and connectives.

DS's school is very keen on stretching the bright children horizontally rather than having them race ahead. The challenge is always "how can I make this classwork better?" rather than "what's next?" It's a much better attitude for them to take into their adult lives, "how can I do this task best?" instead of "yep, good enough, move on". It's been a real revelation.

Mavey9 it sounds like your daughter is doing brilliantly at school already too.

I'm no expert on levels etc so I'll leave that to someone else.

flash at the risk of showing off I have to say we do no formal work at all. There are the obvious opportunities like giving him pocket money so he has to deal with mental arithmetic, or answering his interminable questions about science and history, but no workbooks or extra sheets from the Internet or any of that. Lots of playing in the garden and a dollop of mindless tv too. I'm very keen that learning should never ever be a chore so we don't make him read his school book if he doesn't fancy it on a particular day, and if his homework isn't finished then oh well.

Mrs Hathaway you know, you are so right. That's absolutely the right approach to take and that's how I'd hope her school would do things. I will hopefully get a chance to ask an open question and see what approach they have in mind and hope this is what they say.

I've said this before, but schools DO seem to vary considerably in how easily they award 'exceeding' - or at least they did 3 years ago when my daughter finished reception. She was judged exceeding in all but technology and physical skills. She's now Y2- I haven't seen her SATs results yet, but she should be a 3 in reading, possibly maths but I would imagine only a 2a in writing. So not outstanding in any way!

DS didn't meet any ELG goals but has just got 3c for reading and 2a for maths and writing at the end of y2.

According to the link kindly posted by mrz in 2014 1.6% of children got the max 51 points (17 exceedings).

So can someone explain what level they start on in year 1? And do they all start on same level? Or is their starting level determined by end of year report from reception?

Age does make a huge difference in Reception. The EYFS goes up to 40-60 months and then ELG, and some children are starting the year at almost 60 months so you would expect at least some of them to exceed. A child aged less than 60 months at the end of the year who gets all exceeding really would be exceptional.

.. the 2014 average point score was 34 points (equivalent to 17 expecteds)...

DC got a lot of exceeding (not all by any means) and I thought they were a bit of a stretch now I've seen their work. I think it really does depend on the school although it shouldn't.

However their work at the end of y1 has also been judged exceeding and it's more obvious to me now. I still wouldn't say they are a 'solid' exceeding.

DS got all exceeding apart from the art and PE ones. He gets his Y2 report tomorrow when DD will also get her Reception report. He was all 2s with 2a in reading and writing at the end of Y1. He's bright but he's not exceptional by any stretch of the imagination. DD will probably be expected across the board, she's bright too but she's taking a little longer for it all to click. No-one in my DS's year got all exceeded, just him and 1 other out of 120 got 15. Neither of them got the arty one and he was the only child in the year who got the technology one. No surprise there!

We really do the bare minimum at home, they read to us, but that's more cos it's a nice thing to do than it being school work. Anything else is child led and tbh they'd more often than not rather be on the trampoline or bloody YouTube!

I had figured that they were doing plenty of learning at school and needed time to unwind at home... The more I'm hearing though, the more I'm realising that DD1 wasn't making it up when she said she spends most her time playing because her work was too easy and the teacher wouldn't give her any more a very close eye shall be being kept next year!

Well done her EmmaGeller. I really think it's so up in the air for the first few years as they settle in. Some are obviously going to be one end or the other but the ones inbetween can move around a lot. There are so many different factors to consider.

Question to all - would you worry about nothing exceeding? My son got 'meets expectations' in all which didn't surprise me really, but would've been nice to see if he had a strength anywhere. He has only just turned five though.

Expected is what they're supposed to get!